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Old Oct 15, 2018 | 06:59 PM
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EDIT: Just have them scan for computer codes. The automatic transmission codes can be read by a generic code scanner. The trans codes should cause the D4 light to blink, where some codes caused nothing to blink This was on older accords and I'm not sure on the new accords.

If you pulled a manual transmission, then pulling an automatic transmission won't be much more difficult. I think you have to unbolt the torque converter from the flex plate through the access plate. Some more electrical connections to remove. Overall a similar process to a manual transmission.
 
Old Oct 15, 2018 | 08:11 PM
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Well there were no codes shown on the OBD2 using a Bosch 'prograde OBD2 scan tool' from Orielly's. It shows me ABS and engine codes/still my bank 2 catalyst weak but 0 of anything for the transmission. So i'm just going to do the trans fluid change and drive it gentle while trying to get other cars back online, then probably park it as an uncertainty.

And yes thats what i'm thinking. As uncertain as I am about my own mechanical skills, I DID pull a trans and do a clutch incl flywheel resurface and it worked flawless... so i'm hoping it's not beyond my ability for when I have the time to mess with it. It's just that will be future.


Now about those JDM trans, are they better, or are there better versions than the BAYA for boosted power, or fairly easy mods (like to boost line pressure) for those situations? This probably IS going to switch from practical car now to fun car later, just figuring out the future plan is all. This is definately never going to be a high budget project, just a have a bit more fun project just like I was wanting to do with the stereo too. So it's mostly curious what reliable HP withstanding of the trans is within easy reach of not too expensive mods.
 
Old Oct 15, 2018 | 08:16 PM
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I have no idea about that. When I get a Honda that needs a trans I buy JDM solely for the minimum mileage and price. Below is who I purchase from and have always been satisfied. The link you gave is a reman. They don't compare. When I say $500 that is the max you will pay.

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Old Oct 15, 2018 | 11:32 PM
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Thats for a 4cyl model, implied here https://www.driveaccord.net/forums/1...-lx-2-4-a.html is that the 4cyl trans wont work with my V6, and my searches for JDM V6 trans are all twice the cost so far. I'd assume any adapter would still have a weaker trans with shorter life.

At the same time if i'm comparing $900 JDM V6 listed models to $1100 remanufactured BAYA ones i'm guessing the latter would last longer, since unless the JDM pulls have the same mods making the 06-07 more reliable or list those years separately, it's not the best fix. For the work and the struggle I might not want to do it more than once too and might spend the extra to make the trans last extra.

I'm wondering if there's a step above the BAYA trans on a budget to possibly handle forced induction, or what kind of lighter and easier mods would help it take better power if we go the more fun than daily driver route.
 

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Old Oct 16, 2018 | 05:50 AM
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The 4-cyl & V-6 transmissions are different & not interchangeable.
 
Old Oct 16, 2018 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by fixinmyself
Thats for a 4cyl model, implied here https://www.driveaccord.net/forums/1...-lx-2-4-a.html is that the 4cyl trans wont work with my V6, and my searches for JDM V6 trans are all twice the cost so far. I'd assume any adapter would still have a weaker trans with shorter life.

At the same time if i'm comparing $900 JDM V6 listed models to $1100 remanufactured BAYA ones i'm guessing the latter would last longer, since unless the JDM pulls have the same mods making the 06-07 more reliable or list those years separately, it's not the best fix. For the work and the struggle I might not want to do it more than once too and might spend the extra to make the trans last extra.

I'm wondering if there's a step above the BAYA trans on a budget to possibly handle forced induction, or what kind of lighter and easier mods would help it take better power if we go the more fun than daily driver route.
Most folks in the Acura world don't bother with remanufactured BAYA units, they just fetch a relatively low mileage unit from a bone yard and call it a day. FWIW, the BAYA was only built in the U.S. the JDM V6 5-Speed units are an earlier design.
 
Old Oct 16, 2018 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fixinmyself
As of this moment all i'm trying to do is limp the car to last until I can get two of my other junker vehicles working. (including a 94 accord timing belt that I tried to do last year and this summer but chronic back pain made a real PITA to try. i'm no better now but I have no choice but to force it)

Is JDM any better than like that ebay link for a BAYA rebuilt trans? I'd think shipping add to the cost to make it no better than the ebay option.
If all you're trying to do is buy some time, I'd do like Jim suggested and do a fluid change or 3 and drive it. Check to see if you have trans "pending" codes, as you might have a code present or pending too.
As for JDM or an e-bay trans, you're most likely paying for shipping on either one, so it's a wash. I'd look around and see if there's a JDM dealer closer by though, if you're looking to save on shipping.
I was looking for a JDM trans for my wife's car (in case it quits), and I found some in Texas, and shipping one up would be close to the purchase price. She's got a 2000 Accord, and all of the Honda sites say those are known for going bad. However, hers is still hanging in there, so I haven't had to try and buy one. Also, hers is a 4 cylinder model, so that might be what's extending it's life (has 238K miles on it).

 
Old Oct 17, 2018 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by shipo
Most folks in the Acura world don't bother with remanufactured BAYA units, they just fetch a relatively low mileage unit from a bone yard and call it a day. FWIW, the BAYA was only built in the U.S. the JDM V6 5-Speed units are an earlier design.
Oh if I could find a low mileage one for a few hundred dollars sure, but my searches of car-part.com put so many well over 100k miles and still near $1000 that it seemed pointless. If i'm going to do the work of a trans swap, I would like it to last at least another 100k miles. Does anyone want to suggest the reliable life of a BAYA trans in general? People in threads I made on other boards are just telling me to drive the car to the junkyard I mean due to the honda 5 speed but I dont know if they mean just for this 2003 year, or what. Is it a 200k plus trans in the 06-07 years finally?

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If all you're trying to do is buy some time, I'd do like Jim suggested and do a fluid change or 3 and drive it. Check to see if you have trans "pending" codes, as you might have a code present or pending too.

As for JDM or an e-bay trans, you're most likely paying for shipping on either one, so it's a wash. I'd look around and see if there's a JDM dealer closer by though, if you're looking to save on shipping.
I was looking for a JDM trans for my wife's car (in case it quits), and I found some in Texas, and shipping one up would be close to the purchase price. She's got a 2000 Accord, and all of the Honda sites say those are known for going bad. However, hers is still hanging in there, so I haven't had to try and buy one. Also, hers is a 4 cylinder model, so that might be what's extending it's life (has 238K miles on it).
I've got a trailer I can pick up stuff if it's not TOO far away. If JDM is weaker than BAYA i'm probably just going to look for BAYA - either like ppl say low miles junkyard, or remanufactured. I wouldn't mind spending $1000 to get this car working for another 100k - because it's not a horrible condition honda, the body is real nice for up here in the north (always garaged) and the interior... is fixable. (needs headliner and carpet - I dont suppose the air bag covers along the window posts are replaceable/probably part of the air bag, there's a bit of stain on it... unless there's ways to get stains out)

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH i'm changing the fluid right now and i'm noticing the drain plug seems to have quite a bit of gunk on that magnet:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ooal02s06y...ug_01.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/08o2rwhs5k...ug_02.jpg?dl=0

Wiping it off on the 2nd had quite a bit on there. The fluid isn't black like that (tho its darker than new pink), just the gunk on the magnetic plug. Is this alot? Could this floating in the fluid explain the missed shift condition? Is this something that might improve with a bit more driving, plug pulls to wipe clean, and etc? I almost wonder if instead of doing all 3 trans fluid changes back to back if i should drive a little between each hoping for the plug to catch more gunk.

PS: still no OBD2 codes under transmission at all. And even before the trans fluid change above starting today it's driven 150 city miles and 250 highway miles without a single missed shift if that means anything.
 

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Old Oct 18, 2018 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fixinmyself
Oh if I could find a low mileage one for a few hundred dollars sure, but my searches of car-part.com put so many well over 100k miles and still near $1000 that it seemed pointless. If i'm going to do the work of a trans swap, I would like it to last at least another 100k miles. Does anyone want to suggest the reliable life of a BAYA trans in general? People in threads I made on other boards are just telling me to drive the car to the junkyard I mean due to the honda 5 speed but I dont know if they mean just for this 2003 year, or what. Is it a 200k plus trans in the 06-07 years finally?



I've got a trailer I can pick up stuff if it's not TOO far away. If JDM is weaker than BAYA i'm probably just going to look for BAYA - either like ppl say low miles junkyard, or remanufactured. I wouldn't mind spending $1000 to get this car working for another 100k - because it's not a horrible condition honda, the body is real nice for up here in the north (always garaged) and the interior... is fixable. (needs headliner and carpet - I dont suppose the air bag covers along the window posts are replaceable/probably part of the air bag, there's a bit of stain on it... unless there's ways to get stains out)

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH i'm changing the fluid right now and i'm noticing the drain plug seems to have quite a bit of gunk on that magnet:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ooal02s06y...ug_01.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/08o2rwhs5k...ug_02.jpg?dl=0

Wiping it off on the 2nd had quite a bit on there. The fluid isn't black like that (tho its darker than new pink), just the gunk on the magnetic plug. Is this alot? Could this floating in the fluid explain the missed shift condition? Is this something that might improve with a bit more driving, plug pulls to wipe clean, and etc? I almost wonder if instead of doing all 3 trans fluid changes back to back if i should drive a little between each hoping for the plug to catch more gunk.

PS: still no OBD2 codes under transmission at all. And even before the trans fluid change above starting today it's driven 150 city miles and 250 highway miles without a single missed shift if that means anything.
I'd do the fluid changes, and if I have some spare time pull the solenoids on the top of the trans and clean the screens. Don't know how many miles are on it, but the drain plug doesn't look too bad if it's 100K miles.
 
Old Oct 18, 2018 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Toecutter
I'd do the fluid changes, and if I have some spare time pull the solenoids on the top of the trans and clean the screens. Don't know how many miles are on it, but the drain plug doesn't look too bad if it's 100K miles.
There's 70k on the trans since the rebuild. (and 180k total but i'm assuming any rebuild would have a 100% cleaning) My understanding is it should have had a trans fluid change at 60k.

Any instructions on how to pull solenoids and clear?

Also my problem got alot worse during the attempted fluid change, https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/for...-hole-_-66204/ for all the fun and drama. :( This thread is postponed until I deal with what just went down the dipstick hole.

I'm looking at those borehole inspection cameras, and wondering if I can just unbolt the transmission dipstick from the side and possibly catch an item at the bottom of the hole - because it seems to be in deep if not all the way inside the trans. (carefully feeling with the dipstick itself there was zero resistance/so it's as deep in as the end of the dipstick, and I dont know where that goes inside - if the tube would have gone somewhere retrievable, or somewhere guaranteed to destroy the transmission the moment it starts next)

Help. :(
 



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