injectors appear to be leaking
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injectors appear to be leaking
89 Accord LXi: there appears to be a leak at a joint on the injector body (not the rail assembly). When the engine is warmed up, tiny bubbles come out at this point on two injectors, but on one injector a lot more than on the other. On the worse leak, there is a bead of fluid that collects on a seam in the manifold just below the injector. Not sure if it's related though because it looks more like engine oil than fuel. I guess it could just be dirty. Anyway, could this be a vacuum leak, and could this be the reason why I had such a hard time passing smog (I was only able to get a passing smog reading when the guy plugged my vacuum advance with a golf tee)?
Is it worth replacing the injectors?
Is it worth replacing the injectors?
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Don't know why I didn't just smell the fluid before but now I know: the bead on the manifold weld is motor oil (not sure where from but it's irrelevant), but three injectors are wet with gas.
The gas appears to be coming from a seam up at the level of the electrical input, not from the seal at the manifold.
It looks to me like I need new injectors. ? Also, is this something a relative novice can do? While I have some limited experience under the hood I am pretty methodical. In Chilton's this doesn't look terribly involved.
The gas appears to be coming from a seam up at the level of the electrical input, not from the seal at the manifold.
It looks to me like I need new injectors. ? Also, is this something a relative novice can do? While I have some limited experience under the hood I am pretty methodical. In Chilton's this doesn't look terribly involved.
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good points. It would be really strange for three injectors to be leaking.
However, I haven't seen any indication of spray. Only the injectors are wet with gas.
I looked before turning on the engine - they were dry. I watched as a wet spot gradually developed around the seam directly under the electric terminal. I looked at that spot on the others and, besides their being wet, they have some kind of build-up at that spot.
I don't have tools beyond the very basic, so I'l have to have a mechanic check out the fuel pressure.
One last question - IF they are all actually leaking, is this something that can strand a car on the hiway or most likely just an annoyance and fuel waste?
Thanks a ton for your input.
However, I haven't seen any indication of spray. Only the injectors are wet with gas.
I looked before turning on the engine - they were dry. I watched as a wet spot gradually developed around the seam directly under the electric terminal. I looked at that spot on the others and, besides their being wet, they have some kind of build-up at that spot.
I don't have tools beyond the very basic, so I'l have to have a mechanic check out the fuel pressure.
One last question - IF they are all actually leaking, is this something that can strand a car on the hiway or most likely just an annoyance and fuel waste?
Thanks a ton for your input.
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There's an O-ring seal at each injector at the top where it goes into the fuel rail. THAT mighbe be leaking??
If the fuel rail was ever removed, those O-rings should be replaced. Putting the old ones back in could cause 3 or 4 of them to leak so that wouldn't be a real strange coincidence.
If the fuel rail was ever removed, those O-rings should be replaced. Putting the old ones back in could cause 3 or 4 of them to leak so that wouldn't be a real strange coincidence.
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If I wasn't so sure that I was actually seeing leaks on the injector bodies (bubbles forming at joint below terminals) I would just replace the seals myself, but decided to get them checked by a pro to determine if the injectors need to be replaced.
The word from the trusted mechanic: seals shot on three injectors, two injectors leaking under pressure (when removed and tested on machine).
Funny that.
Thanks for all the feedback.
The word from the trusted mechanic: seals shot on three injectors, two injectors leaking under pressure (when removed and tested on machine).
Funny that.
Thanks for all the feedback.
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