mysterious brief engine power loss
Out of curiosity do you happen to recall whether you'd determined beforehand if the coolant seepage/leakage from the head gasket had been definitely leaking into a combustion chamber? Just asking... and thanks again for the suggestion, and followup info.
What would be the best way to ground the plug wires? Perhaps a jumper from them to a frame or engine bolt?
For the few secs needed to inspect for water, the spark plug leads could remain unconnected.
Alternatively, pull the electrical connector to distributor, so no spark is generated. This may set some codes that will need to be cleared by pulling BackUp fuse (7.5A) in underhood fuse box
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Alternatively, pull the electrical connector to distributor, so no spark is generated. This may set some codes that will need to be cleared by pulling BackUp fuse (7.5A) in underhood fuse box
good luck
For the few secs needed to inspect for water, the spark plug leads could remain unconnected. Alternatively, pull the electrical connector to distributor, so no spark is generated.
I finally performed a cold coolant system pressure test. I pumped the system to 16 psi and did not observe any external leakage and no drips/drops down below the engine. However, after 10 or 12 minutes I noticed the pressure gauge on the pump had fallen to 15 psi. I pumped it again to 16, again watched for any external leakage and saw none, and then after 20 or 22 minutes thereabouts I noticed the loss of pressure down 1 pound from 16 to 15 again.
I was going to crank the engine with all the plugs removed to see if any water might squirt up out of any of the holes. However, to my dismay, the #3 plug seemed rather tight compared to the others upon attempting to unscrew it. When it seemed I had unscrewed it most of the way, it became harder and harder to turn almost like it was tightening again. Afraid to continue, I reversed ratcheted it and screwed it back down, and I'm fairly certain it screwed back down in all the way.
I figure at the very least at this point I might go ahead and try turning cranking the engine with three of the four plugs removed to see if I see any water squirt up out of any of those holes. I've got the spark plug wire connections lying around on top of the engine like shown in the photo below. Will that be a fine situation for the brief time I want to do the cranking and observing for water squirt?

Also I took a pic of the three removed plugs:

Any comment/advice about the plug removal issue I mentioned, and whether a brief engine crank with those plug wires lying there like that should be fine, and maybe in regard to the appearance/condition of those three plugs would be appreciated. Oh and I almost forgot, any comment in regard to the coolant sytem pressure loss as I described. Seems that at least a quart or more of coolant has been "disappearing" every few weeks, with quite minimal daily short distance driving of the vehicle.
I was going to crank the engine with all the plugs removed to see if any water might squirt up out of any of the holes. However, to my dismay, the #3 plug seemed rather tight compared to the others upon attempting to unscrew it. When it seemed I had unscrewed it most of the way, it became harder and harder to turn almost like it was tightening again. Afraid to continue, I reversed ratcheted it and screwed it back down, and I'm fairly certain it screwed back down in all the way.
I figure at the very least at this point I might go ahead and try turning cranking the engine with three of the four plugs removed to see if I see any water squirt up out of any of those holes. I've got the spark plug wire connections lying around on top of the engine like shown in the photo below. Will that be a fine situation for the brief time I want to do the cranking and observing for water squirt?

Also I took a pic of the three removed plugs:

Any comment/advice about the plug removal issue I mentioned, and whether a brief engine crank with those plug wires lying there like that should be fine, and maybe in regard to the appearance/condition of those three plugs would be appreciated. Oh and I almost forgot, any comment in regard to the coolant sytem pressure loss as I described. Seems that at least a quart or more of coolant has been "disappearing" every few weeks, with quite minimal daily short distance driving of the vehicle.
Last edited by sgull; Oct 18, 2014 at 01:24 PM.
Plug removal issue is likely carbon on the plug threads causing binding. You might try a good soak of PB Blaster and allow several hrs to soak through. Warming engine for 2-3 mins before attempting to remove plug may help also. Work slowly, loosen/tighten on plug to hopefully push debris out of the way. See following video:
If you reuse old spark plugs, clean threads w/ wire brush and use small amount of anti-sieze on threads.
Coolant system test was not a positive leak detection IMO. Loss of 1 lb is easily possible w/ small temp changes of coolant unless it was dead cold. This test may indicate head gasket is not the problem (good news!).
Agree you should test other 3 cylinders while plugs are out.
If you reuse old spark plugs, clean threads w/ wire brush and use small amount of anti-sieze on threads.
Coolant system test was not a positive leak detection IMO. Loss of 1 lb is easily possible w/ small temp changes of coolant unless it was dead cold. This test may indicate head gasket is not the problem (good news!).
Agree you should test other 3 cylinders while plugs are out.
Loss of 1 lb is easily possible w/ small temp changes of coolant unless it was dead cold. This test may indicate head gasket is not the problem. Agree you should test other 3 cylinders while plugs are out.
I checked the three spark plug holes for any coolant squirting out while cranking the engine a few times. No coolant observed squirting out of either of those three holes anyway. With the coolant loss I've been experiencing though (as I've mentioned), the coolant has to be leaking somehow but no sign of external leakage with the pressure test. Will try working the stubborn plug out following the suggestion(s) just posted previously. thanks
A 1 psi drop in 15-20 mins is a very small leak. You need something else to confirm head gasket. If coolant is leaking to combustion chamber, some gases should be getting in coolant. There is a chemical test for combustion gases in coolant that may provide confirmation of a leak. Following video may be helpful:
good luck
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