Plug wires...
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Where are you seeing the price for the wires? Everywhere I search puts the OEM Sumitomo wires at a far higher price than the NGK blue wires. I'm seeing them at a price of roughly $45.00 for the cylinder wires alone and an extra $16.00 for the ignition coil wire.
Also not sure if this is true but pulled this from another thread on another forum, someone e-mailed NGK about the lifetime of their blue wires and got this...
Also not sure if this is true but pulled this from another thread on another forum, someone e-mailed NGK about the lifetime of their blue wires and got this...
And I found the OEM's for 36...BUT,just realized(because of your post) the ignition wire was NOT included and was as you said around $16.So Im looking at 50?or so for everything.If those NGK are that good and cheaper then sign me up!!! I also found the oem densos and NGK plugs cheap (there both listed as OEM for my accord,and 4 different kind?how can this be???)
http://www.ushondaparts.com/index.ph...e=scat&scat=49
http://http://www.ushondaparts.com/i...e=scat&scat=48
I have a question slightly off subject here,but didnt want to start a new thread for this.I just bought a new shifter **** and went to change it and it doesnt simply twist off.You can twist it,but whole boot twists with it and cant really tell how to get it off,and ideas????
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Yeah, the NGK blue wires are only $35.00 for all four wires and the coil wire. That set is all you need to replace your wires. You'll have to pay shipping though at AutoPartsWarehouse unless your cart is at least $50.00 worth of parts which is why I said to throw some other stuff in there like an air filter or the spark plugs to get free shipping.
The four plug types you refer to might be Denso USA, Denso Japan, NGK USA, NGK Japan as I noticed some websites sell Japanese and US versions of the OEM parts.
NGK is widely recommended for Honda's, it's really not the end of the world to replace the OEM plugs with NGK plugs. Even the Haynes manual explicitly states that the plugs should only be replaced with NGK or Denso plugs. Bosch plugs might be a different story since the internet seems to be filled with people saying Bosch plugs are crap but NGK plugs have a solid rap all around. You don't even need to gap these since they come pre-gapped. You just slap them in. I think if you want to avoid compatibility or fitment issues you should just go with the NGK blue wires and the NGK VPC plugs since they're known to work well with Honda's.
(Don't get the VPC plugs at AutoPartsWarehouse, they appear to charge $6.88 for one of them which is a rip off. Autozone carries them for $2.29 each, you need to buy four. When you ask for them at Autozone they should give them to you in a box that holds four smaller boxes each containing one plug. The total should come out to around $9.20 for all four plugs which is all you need to replace your plugs.)
If you don't have it you might also want to pick up a spark plug socket extension while you're there and a extension bar for your ratchet since the spark plug well is pretty deep. The spark plug socket extension is essential, you're not going to be able to get a regular socket over the spark plug. The extension bar means you can work with the ratchet above the spark plug wells.
The four plug types you refer to might be Denso USA, Denso Japan, NGK USA, NGK Japan as I noticed some websites sell Japanese and US versions of the OEM parts.
NGK is widely recommended for Honda's, it's really not the end of the world to replace the OEM plugs with NGK plugs. Even the Haynes manual explicitly states that the plugs should only be replaced with NGK or Denso plugs. Bosch plugs might be a different story since the internet seems to be filled with people saying Bosch plugs are crap but NGK plugs have a solid rap all around. You don't even need to gap these since they come pre-gapped. You just slap them in. I think if you want to avoid compatibility or fitment issues you should just go with the NGK blue wires and the NGK VPC plugs since they're known to work well with Honda's.
(Don't get the VPC plugs at AutoPartsWarehouse, they appear to charge $6.88 for one of them which is a rip off. Autozone carries them for $2.29 each, you need to buy four. When you ask for them at Autozone they should give them to you in a box that holds four smaller boxes each containing one plug. The total should come out to around $9.20 for all four plugs which is all you need to replace your plugs.)
If you don't have it you might also want to pick up a spark plug socket extension while you're there and a extension bar for your ratchet since the spark plug well is pretty deep. The spark plug socket extension is essential, you're not going to be able to get a regular socket over the spark plug. The extension bar means you can work with the ratchet above the spark plug wells.
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Yeah, the NGK blue wires are only $35.00 for all four wires and the coil wire. That set is all you need to replace your wires. You'll have to pay shipping though at AutoPartsWarehouse unless your cart is at least $50.00 worth of parts which is why I said to throw some other stuff in there like an air filter or the spark plugs to get free shipping.
The four plug types you refer to might be Denso USA, Denso Japan, NGK USA, NGK Japan as I noticed some websites sell Japanese and US versions of the OEM parts.
NGK is widely recommended for Honda's, it's really not the end of the world to replace the OEM plugs with NGK plugs. Even the Haynes manual explicitly states that the plugs should only be replaced with NGK or Denso plugs. Bosch plugs might be a different story since the internet seems to be filled with people saying Bosch plugs are crap but NGK plugs have a solid rap all around. You don't even need to gap these since they come pre-gapped. You just slap them in. I think if you want to avoid compatibility or fitment issues you should just go with the NGK blue wires and the NGK VPC plugs since they're known to work well with Honda's.
(Don't get the VPC plugs at AutoPartsWarehouse, they appear to charge $6.88 for one of them which is a rip off. Autozone carries them for $2.29 each, you need to buy four. When you ask for them at Autozone they should give them to you in a box that holds four smaller boxes each containing one plug. The total should come out to around $9.20 for all four plugs which is all you need to replace your plugs.)
If you don't have it you might also want to pick up a spark plug socket extension while you're there and a extension bar for your ratchet since the spark plug well is pretty deep. The spark plug socket extension is essential, you're not going to be able to get a regular socket over the spark plug. The extension bar means you can work with the ratchet above the spark plug wells.
The four plug types you refer to might be Denso USA, Denso Japan, NGK USA, NGK Japan as I noticed some websites sell Japanese and US versions of the OEM parts.
NGK is widely recommended for Honda's, it's really not the end of the world to replace the OEM plugs with NGK plugs. Even the Haynes manual explicitly states that the plugs should only be replaced with NGK or Denso plugs. Bosch plugs might be a different story since the internet seems to be filled with people saying Bosch plugs are crap but NGK plugs have a solid rap all around. You don't even need to gap these since they come pre-gapped. You just slap them in. I think if you want to avoid compatibility or fitment issues you should just go with the NGK blue wires and the NGK VPC plugs since they're known to work well with Honda's.
(Don't get the VPC plugs at AutoPartsWarehouse, they appear to charge $6.88 for one of them which is a rip off. Autozone carries them for $2.29 each, you need to buy four. When you ask for them at Autozone they should give them to you in a box that holds four smaller boxes each containing one plug. The total should come out to around $9.20 for all four plugs which is all you need to replace your plugs.)
If you don't have it you might also want to pick up a spark plug socket extension while you're there and a extension bar for your ratchet since the spark plug well is pretty deep. The spark plug socket extension is essential, you're not going to be able to get a regular socket over the spark plug. The extension bar means you can work with the ratchet above the spark plug wells.
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No idea. They might be the same? I bought the NGK VPC plugs at Autozone so I didn't have to worry about that. 
No idea about the shifter **** issue either. Might want to make a new thread for that since it's not the same as the subject of this thread.
No idea about the shifter **** issue either. Might want to make a new thread for that since it's not the same as the subject of this thread.
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Actually,just figured it out,but wont really work with an aftermarket shifter.It could,but would look funny so just gonna stick with the OEM.Im seeing a trend here.
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Dont' get the K&N air filter. Complete waste of money.
I've tried the K&N filter on 4 different cars over the last 10 years and saw no measureable improvement in engine performance.
Also the risk of over oiling can cause problems with your throttle body and MAF sensor.
I've tried the K&N filter on 4 different cars over the last 10 years and saw no measureable improvement in engine performance.
Also the risk of over oiling can cause problems with your throttle body and MAF sensor.
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NGK and Denso both Jap companys so it won’t matter. But IMO NGK over Denso. Also do you have a auto or 5speed. I'm assuming 5speed since you said shift boot. There is a plastic piece around the bottom of the shifter **** it disconnects from the **** it self (should be silver looking) then you can unscrew the shifter ****. You just pull down a bit and it should unsnap from the shifter ****. So your shift boot will have the silver square piece still attached when you take the **** off.
Also yes don't buy a $80 drop in filte...for the price you can get a whole intake.
Also yes don't buy a $80 drop in filte...for the price you can get a whole intake.
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NGK and Denso both Jap companys so it won’t matter. But IMO NGK over Denso. Also do you have a auto or 5speed. I'm assuming 5speed since you said shift boot. There is a plastic piece around the bottom of the shifter **** it disconnects from the **** it self (should be silver looking) then you can unscrew the shifter ****. You just pull down a bit and it should unsnap from the shifter ****. So your shift boot will have the silver square piece still attached when you take the **** off.
Also yes don't buy a $80 drop in filte...for the price you can get a whole intake.
Also yes don't buy a $80 drop in filte...for the price you can get a whole intake.
In regards to the air filter,I wouldnt mind having a little more power with a new intake(Im assuming you mean a cold air intake or short ram) and have considered it as it seems to be a simple upgrade,but I dont really wanna try to turn this car into something its not.But if I were to do something like that...
What is the difference between SRI and CAI? and I have read about issues driving in the rain?and lastly,the prices range from $50 up to a few hundred,any recomendations?
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Dont' get the K&N air filter. Complete waste of money.
I've tried the K&N filter on 4 different cars over the last 10 years and saw no measureable improvement in engine performance.
Also the risk of over oiling can cause problems with your throttle body and MAF sensor.
I've tried the K&N filter on 4 different cars over the last 10 years and saw no measureable improvement in engine performance.
Also the risk of over oiling can cause problems with your throttle body and MAF sensor.
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Just checked the auto-zone website and they have NGK platinum and NGK v-powers for almost the same price...What to do,what to do.Correct me if I am wrong,but the platinum's will last longer than the v-power?so what is the +side to v-power over plats? EDIT-Just seen the Denso plats for the same price also on advance autos site...Im just gonna go against the grain and get autolites 
Spark Plug | 1993 Honda Accord 4 Cylinders 2.2L FI | AutoZone.com
Spark Plug | 1993 Honda Accord 4 Cylinders 2.2L FI | AutoZone.com
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