Question for Honda Forum about Crumple Zones
Hi everyone, I have a Honda Accord question. When did the Accord first get front and rear crumple zones? The first mention of crumple zones I can find is in the 5th generation starting in 1994, but I was wondering if that was when they actually first started using them in Honda Accord cars, or just the first time it was mentioned? Did the 4th generation or even earlier generations have them too? Does anyone know ? Thanks
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Originally Posted by Starrose
(Post 387499)
Hi everyone, I have a Honda Accord question. When did the Accord first get front and rear crumple zones? The first mention of crumple zones I can find is in the 5th generation starting in 1994, but I was wondering if that was when they actually first started using them in Honda Accord cars, or just the first time it was mentioned? Did the 4th generation or even earlier generations have them too? Does anyone know ? Thanks
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Originally Posted by shipo
(Post 387501)
While I don't know for a fact, I'd say odds on bet the 4G Accords had crumple zones. Why would I say that? Because crumple zones are not a new concept, not even remotely; I had two cars built in the 1970s with them.
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Originally Posted by shipo
(Post 387501)
While I don't know for a fact, I'd say odds on bet the 4G Accords had crumple zones. Why would I say that? Because crumple zones are not a new concept, not even remotely; I had two cars built in the 1970s with them.
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Originally Posted by The Toecutter
(Post 387520)
I agree. Probably had them in the 3rd gen, but nobody really called them out as such (it was more of an insurance company standard back them). You have to remember, in the late 60's, insurance companies were the driving force behind safety, and limiting engine sizes. As a result, while it might have "crumple zones" built in, it really wasn't mentioned as a "safety feature" like it was in the 90's (to help sales). And that's the thing, Americans in the 90's started looking at safety features like crumple zones, number of air bags, traction control, and things like that. That's also when you saw manufacturers putting the info into sales brochures and in their literature (along with a booklet to go with your owners manual).
I hope this helps. I am glad insurance companies helped make our cars safer for us . Although strangely enough I did read in an article once that seat belts go a long way towards protecting drivers much more than airbags, and the article went on to say that if we all wore the 5 point seat belt harnesses that they do in racing it would be much better protection then we have now. |
Originally Posted by Starrose
(Post 387528)
That is interesting I did not know that , but it also mentions that in 1994 not only did they have front and rear crumple zones, they also had reinforced side impact beams. Would that have been in the older car's type of crumple zones too or were the 1994 designs something different?
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Originally Posted by shipo
(Post 387531)
My 1975 Pontiac LeMans had side impact beams.
You might not know this but front wheel drive cars use the engine/trans as part of the crumple zone, as it gets pushed against the firewall in a head on accident. It's designed like that to spread out the impact, increasing your chances of survival. |
Originally Posted by Starrose
(Post 387530)
But I thought that crumple zones always necessitated other major changes in the structure of the vehicle, because they allow for the car to crumple that means the interior needs added protection by strengthening of sides and metal beams. I assumed the 1994 5th generation included major additional changes like that but did the earlier generations too ?
I am glad insurance companies helped make our cars safer for us . Although strangely enough I did read in an article once that seat belts go a long way towards protecting drivers much more than airbags, and the article went on to say that if we all wore the 5 point seat belt harnesses that they do in racing it would be much better protection then we have now. |
Originally Posted by The Toecutter
(Post 387557)
As did my 73 Chevy Vega, and my 70 Camaro. Door beams came out in the very early 70's (part of the safety mandates).
You might not know this but front wheel drive cars use the engine/trans as part of the crumple zone, as it gets pushed against the firewall in a head on accident. It's designed like that to spread out the impact, increasing your chances of survival. |
Originally Posted by shipo
(Post 387564)
Geez, I thought I was the only idiot (nothing personal; we were probably both pretty young and not too bright when it came to cars) around here who had the misfortune to own a Vega; mine was a 1970 with the 2-Speed "Slip-and-Slide" PowerGlide automatic transmission. :p
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