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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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I purchased a new shift selector cable which goes between the shift selector lever and the automatic transmission of my '92. I've noticed now that the shift lever connection end is different as compared to the original. Everything else is absolutely identical about it, however, no other differences. The pin lock clip cannot fit onto the new shift cable end because of the difference as shown in this picture (notice the slot in the shaft on the old part on the left as compared to no such slot on the new part on the right).



Although the new part isn't Honda brand, all cross referencing of the numbers jives with Honda part number references otherwise for the part. Here's the package in which the new part came.



I'm baffled as to why the difference, what's going on. It seems it's the wrong part obviously but the numbers as I mentioned all reference/jive with Honda numbers for the same part for the vehicle. Perhaps someone here could offer an explanation. Thanks
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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I can't tell for sure from the angle; but, they didn't drill where that indentation is?
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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I can't tell for sure from the angle; but, they didn't drill where that indentation is?
No, they drilled where your arrow is pointing. So no issue there.
Note where I've drawn the arrow in this picture. See how the shaft has the is skinner portion in that short length of the shaft where the arrow is pointing? That's where the clip needs to fit into.

 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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Does yours look like the image from the service manual (see pic.)? From this pic., it kind of looks like the lock pin would go over the part with the adjuster and slide into the hole on the shift control cable.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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Does yours look like the image from the service manual (see pic.)? From this pic., it kind of looks like the lock pin would go over the part with the adjuster and slide into the hole on the shift control cable.
Yes, looks the same as your image from the service manual. Yes the lock pin does go over the part with the adjuster and the pin fits into the hole in the shift cable (with the original one, but with the replacement part I purchased it won't fit down over the end shaft connection portion of the cable assembly). Where I've drawn the arrow pointing (in the picture I've provided in my last post here) you can see that the shaft, as I described, has a skinnier (notch) portion there where I'm pointing. That width is the width of the open slot you can see in the front of the "lock pin" part I'm holding there. Without that notched out section (the new part doesn't have that notch, you can see) the open slot of that lock pin cannot fit onto that connection. Without the notch, the cable connection pictured is simply too wide for that lock pin to fit onto.
 

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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 07:59 PM
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Have you tried contacting the seller?

The ebay seller claims they are a Honda dealer, says the aftermarket part fits and works, and they been selling it for over 15 years.

"http://www.ebay.com/itm/90-91-92-93-Accord-Automatic-Transmission-Shift-Cable-Style-Made-Japan-/221270336736#vi-content"
 
Old Sep 8, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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Have you tried contacting the seller?

The ebay seller claims they are a Honda dealer, says the aftermarket part fits and works, and they been selling it for over 15 years.

"http://www.ebay.com/itm/90-91-92-93-Accord-Automatic-Transmission-Shift-Cable-Style-Made-Japan-/221270336736#vi-content"

Yeah I know that's what it says in their ad. I just contacted them. They wrote back and said please call me tommorow. fun stuff.
 
Old Sep 8, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Claims still need to be supported. Let us know what the seller end up saying, doing, etc.
 
Old Sep 8, 2013 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by redbull-1
Claims still need to be supported. Let us know what the seller end up saying, doing, etc.
Sure, I'll let ya know what the seller says/does.
It's weird because if you search the part number of what's on the package the part came in (Honda part number 54315-SM4-J81) you find that particular part number is (or should be) the same Honda part as number 54315-SM4-505, which is the "superceded" number (or vice-versa, depending on which online Honda parts place you look). In other words, Honda apparently changed the last three digits of the part number for whatever reason but the part itself shouldn't have changed. There is, however, that definite difference between my original factory part from the car and the replacement part I got, which prevents that lock pin from fitting on.
 
Old Sep 8, 2013 | 09:49 PM
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Honda 54315-SM4-505 is listed as the part for your car.

Sites show 54315-SM4-J81 was superceded; so, 54315-SM4-505 would be the current replacement for Accords that originally used 54315-SM4-J81. Not sure if 54315-SM4-J81 was ever listed for your model year Accord and place of manufacture.

54315 is related to shift lever - SM4 probably is Accord, 90-93

The J is Japan spec. The other numbers at the end are manufacturer codes. Sometimes revisions/changes are made to the parts or it is a different manufacturer.
 

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