windshield washer pump
 

My '92 Accord windshield washer pump needs replacing, I think. So I was looking in my "Haynes" manual for the vehicle and it says to gain access to the reservoir I need to "either remove the front bumper or engine under cover". So I wonder what they mean by the "engine under cover"? Just that big long plastic shroud thing that is installed all along underneath the front bumper area?

Also, I was wondering if it'll be actually necessary to remove the whole fricken front bumper just to get that reservoir out to replace the pump, or maybe (hopefully) I can just remove that fricken shroud and that'll give me enough access to remove that washer tank? :shrug:

Any comments appreciated.

I'm not sure where the pump motor is installed on the washer fluid reservoir.

You may be able to remove the splash shield for the wheel well to access the pump for the windshield washer.

Indeed I can access the pump by simply loosening and pulling back the wheel well splash shield, as shown in the photos I decided to take and share here of the situation. No need to remove the whole fricken bumper or any "engine under cover" or take the reservoir out like that (fricken) manual described. Thanks PA.

https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/for...ine=1464458624

https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/for...ine=1464458624

https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/for...ine=1464458624

Nice :). Did it turn out the washer motor was bad, you didn't seem too sure in your first post?

I'll guess things have been going well as I haven't seen you post in a while.

Well poorman I'm proceeding on my assumption that it's bad. When I switch it on I not only get no fluid to squirt but also cannot hear the pump motor trying to work at all. I looked at the fuse for it and it's fine.

Also, I'd almost forgotten that I had another handy source of info other than that crappy Haynes manual, a CD with a bunch of 4th Gen Accord service info that somebody ;) had sent me in the past. I just took a look at that and it describes to remove the "left inner fender" and also describes a method to test the pump motor -- to "connect battery power to the positive terminal and ground the negative terminal" (screenshot below):

https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/for...ine=1464538663

I haven't tested the pump motor as I suppose I could if I was really clear on how to how to go about it as it describes. I also notice that description also mentions a headlight washer too which my Accord did not come equipped with; mine just has a wiper washer, but actually located on the reservoir where the drawing shows the headlight washer pump motor.

So anyway so far I've removed the washer pump and found a cheap replacement on Ebay for ten bucks. That's on its way. Once I get it and slap it in and whether I get squirting then we should know if I assumed correctly or if I wasted ten bucks.

Well if the pump is out, simply put power and ground from the battery to the terminals and see if it runs.

You could dip the inlet into a bowl of water and see if fluid "squirts" out of the outlet or simply feel it "hum".

Also with a volt meter, when someone is "pressing/pulling" (can't remember how it works) are you getting power and ground to the wires.

Yea, that crappy manual - did I sent that? - cover the Euro models so it has things like headlight washers and "self leveling" headlights that we never saw in North America.

Good luck either way and I hope it all works out :)

Okay well I don't happen to have a couple of test lead/wires to power/ground from the battery to the terminals and all that. Plus, getting a bowl of water and all that sounds like too much trouble. :o
Maybe if once I get the new pump motor installed and I still get nothing I'll try to do further real troubleshooting before any more further assuming and just throwing more new parts at it, like a switch or whatever.
Actually yeah you did send me the service info on the CD and thanks again for that; it's usually much better than the Haynes manual. That Haynes manual is better than nothing, but not much really.
Let's keep our fingers crossed the new pump will just work and no further troubleshooting will be necessary. Troubleshooting... just too much trouble sometimes.
Will keep ya posted.

Fingers crossed :)

Update:
Yippeee! Finger crossing works every time (or at least this time anyway).

http://vid207.photobucket.com/albums...ps1zbnk8o4.mp4

Yep, I'd call that one done.

Might just be me and the sound on my PC but are the wipers "kind of thumping" when they go to the bottom?

Either way, that one is marked off the list :)

Now that you mention it, no it's not you or your PC thumping. Upon examination, I see that while in operation the far end inch or two (mid windshield end) driver side wiper blade is thumping down as it meets the bottom of the windshield there. I hadn't ever noticed until you brought it up. Not good I suppose. That blade is either too long perhaps, or the arm perhaps improperly positioned something like that? Thanks for any comments/suggestions to get me on the right track fixing that up properly.

Where you live, ice and snow add up quick. So that can mess with the wiper arm position.

Yes verify that the blades are the right length. If they are, the position can be adjusted. Assuming the bushings in the wiper transmission are good.

Didn't look at my crappy 4th gen manual, using my personal experience with my 5th gen(s). At the base of the windshield/arms there is a nut holding the arms to the "studs" of the wiper transmission. You can remove that "nut" and lift the arm straight up - be careful as there are "splines" on both the arm and stud.....I've used a small pulley puller to help before. It is like a "taper" on a ball joint but also has "splines"....you don't want to mess up the "splines" and "whacking" with a hammer isn't a good idea....sometimes, one hand on the stud and another lifting on the arm and a good "tug" has got them to come off.

You can lift the arm off the stud and "re-position" it slightly to the side that needs adjustment. Then tighten the nut/bolt and see what you have. If you can, use a marker to the stud and arm before removing it so you know the original position. I forget the torque spec on that nut/bolt.

Again, just something I noticed. No need to stress over it. If you do nothing, you might never have any issues. Almost sorry I said anything about it.....just turn up the radio and you will never hear it :). I do that with some things on mine.

Okay I coudn't seem to come up with any info to verify whether the blade(s) is the right length, so I decided to assumed they were. I was able to reposition the arm without much trouble. Didn't need a small puller to remove the 14 mm acorn nut from the stud; and that was good because I didn't have a small puller. A good tug and it pulled off nicely. Fiddled with it for a few minutes, trial and error a little and got it repositioned about right so it doesn't slap/thump down like it did before on the bottom of the windshield. Couldn't come up with any info on the torque for the acorn nut so just snugged it up good by "feel".

Again, for your viewing pleasure, I have provided link to a video I took after the reposition job. No more thumping, and I watched and stops clear of the windshield bottom now a good inch or so. Note: Now if you happen to hear what seems like a squeeking/rubbing noise coming from the wiper blades, that's just you and the sound on your PC.;) Thanks poorman212.

http://vid207.photobucket.com/albums...psheloznnx.mp4

Again, sorry for even saying/typing anything. they shouldn't hit the base or the A post either.

I guess I'm just getting too old for this, sorry.

Glad it worked out, washer and wipers, Good luck and hope everything stays good for a long time :)

Me too! Thanks again for all the input/comments here.