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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 01:26 AM
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and also how does the whole legality issue work with nitrous?
 
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 01:57 AM
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Sounds like that answer would have to come from a lawyer I think...

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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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My auto teacher in high school explained it to me like this:

It is legal to have in your car, and is technically legal to use in your car. The only thing that would make it illegal would be the emissions, but seeing you only use it at WOT that doesn't matter. Of course when you are using it you could get a ticket for misuse of power and speeding, but you can't get a ticket just for having it, at least not in New Hampshire.
 
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by clutch811
haha naphthalene. actually all thats even gonna do is maybe raise youre octane rating of the gasoline. then it presents another problem of burning dirty and leaving nasty carbon build up everywhere lol. also read that they mostly use paradichlorobenzene in mothballs now. this will make HCl in your motor during combustion. THIS IS BAD!!!!!. its acid and will literally eat away your engines internals lol.

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Fact: Octane does not = power. Octane is a more stable compound than hectance and whatever else is in gas. Higher octane fuel is used in higher compression engines, then it produces "more" power by making the high compression engine less prone to predetonation of the charge (aka knocking).

Fact: The amount of HCl produced would hardly cause an issue with eroding. HCl can be found is many things you put in your body, including 99% or medications. Molarity of the HCl would be far too low to cause any real damage.

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yeah, and even if it does work

1)a lawnmower wheelie? please...
2)i'm still never gonna risk it, haha...too much room for error =P
1. Never gonna happen. The mothballs would dissolve in the tank and not give "bursts" of power, if there is any increas it would be throughou the tank.

2. I would spray a car before I messed with forced induction.

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Tell him to eat a few and see if it shaves a couple seconds of his one mile run time.
I agree. Give some to skatingclaybird while you're at it.

Originally Posted by lairdylairdy
and also how does the whole legality issue work with nitrous?
Originally Posted by live2rice
My auto teacher in high school explained it to me like this:

It is legal to have in your car, and is technically legal to use in your car. The only thing that would make it illegal would be the emissions, but seeing you only use it at WOT that doesn't matter. Of course when you are using it you could get a ticket for misuse of power and speeding, but you can't get a ticket just for having it, at least not in New Hampshire.
Just like underglow, wheel LEDs, and other car crap they sell. Legal to own, illegal to use it.

I don't believe that nitrous is necessarily illegal, as long as you still have the O2 sensors and cat, you're not changing the emissions. But I'm not 100% sure, but it seems like NOx emissions would obviously be higher than normal.
 
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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Nitrous makes it burn way more hot than usual, so technically shouldn't it actually reduce emissions by burning them, much like the cat?
 
Old Feb 3, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Lawnmower wheelies can be done, but with a little more work than mothballs. Me and my friend had an old murray lawnmower that we took the mower deck off and swapped the trans pulley so it topped out at about 35mph. If you dumped the clutch at full throttle you could pop the wheels about a foot off the ground. I was 14 and didn't have money for a 4wheeler lol.
 
Old Feb 3, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 19Accord97
Nitrous makes it burn way more hot than usual, so technically shouldn't it actually reduce emissions by burning them, much like the cat?

Nitrous is a gas at room temperature, so when you spray the liquid into the intake it cools the intake charge as well as acting as an oxidizer for the fuel. It's the same effect as putting rubbing alcohol on your skin and it gets cold or spraying a can of compressed air (CO2).

NOx and and *** are products of combustion (you will always get CO2 and H2O in a combustion reaction), you get more of them the more you burn. Burning more fuel can easily melt cats, you can find this out by running your engine too rich.
 
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by live2rice
Even if said method does increase the octane to 107 octane, it doesn't provide that much power(they sell 110octane at the drag strip). And unless you are running a race built motor it doesn't make much of a difference.

And lets not forget that the substance is toxic.
Running a higher octane fuel in a car that only requires regular (87) just slows down the burning process, and gets you slightly better gas mileage...that's all it does for "performance." people think their cars will be faster if they run "race fuel." True, if you have the mods that can take advantage of it, if you don't, then it's just a wast of money.

I would never do the moth ball thing, I don't care how legit it is and even if I'm missing out on better gas mileage.

cliff notes: I totally agree with you!
 

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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by clutch811
haha naphthalene. actually all thats even gonna do is maybe raise youre octane rating of the gasoline.
true.
ok. first of all, moth ***** made w/ naphtalene were used on Argentina (im argentinian) to raise octane levels on gas. it has to be purely naphtalene, because the new ones are not and they will damage the injectors...

It will most def not make a lawnmower do a wheely! that's just plain stupid.
 
Old Feb 17, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by finch13
Fact: The amount of HCl produced would hardly cause an issue with eroding. HCl can be found is many things you put in your body, including 99% or medications. Molarity of the HCl would be far too low to cause any real damage.
yeah i know i didnt mean it could happen like instantly, more or less over time. i mean considering catalyst temperatures and there being the presence of other compounds and H2O from combustion, over time it could cause some trouble. could make the moisture in the exhaust acid and cause erosion there to be quicker i guess. just doesnt sound good to have any acid in or near my engine lol.
 



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