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falkore24
9/26/2007 2:20:18 PM
I've searched and come up empty.  Does anyone know if I can swap out my POS 6th gen AT with another AT?  I'm looking for something more reliable and AT to MT is out of the question.  I've also looked into a Dr. Evil tranny, but that is just a modified 6th gen AT.  I'd like to put the 5-spd AT from a 3.2 CL or CL-S in, but I'm not sure that it is possible.  I'm looking mostly at the CL and CL-S because they use J-series engines, but other ideas are welcome also.  I am looking for a fairly easy swap, otherwise I'm better off saving the money for the next car.  All help is appreciated.  Please refrain from bashing ideas on this thread as well.
00AccordLX5spd
9/26/2007 2:49:10 PM
I think the CL-S trans should work.
The 6 speed manual trans from the CS-L even the TL I believe is being swapped into the 6th gen accords with the J - series engine.  The most complicated part is the wiring/computer stuff.
Join up on www.6thgenaccord.com.  They have a ton of info on the 6 speed swap.  Do a search and see if they have any posts about a AT from a CL or TL working. 
falkore24
9/26/2007 3:07:59 PM
I've looked and didn't find this swap.  I know that people are doing the AT to MT swap, but that's too much money for me.  If I kill the POS that I have, I'd like to be able to do a simple drop in with a better tranny.  I'm hoping that I just need to swap the tranny and TCU with no adapters or modifications.  I'm not sure what I need to do since I'm looking to go from 4-spd to 5-spd though.   ..... or is there a good 4-spd AT that I could use?
pyaarawala
9/26/2007 6:18:54 PM
Just save for the next car.
stevent
9/26/2007 6:45:52 PM
DO NOT swap your auto tranny for the cl/tl auto tranny. They have the same problem as our tranny, but worse. Our tranny is much more reliable compared to the cl/tl tranny. The swap is doable, but it's not recommended. And since going from auto to a manual is out of the question, then Level 10 or Dr. Evil is your only 2 options.
falkore24
9/27/2007 6:14:58 AM
Well, you're the first person that I've heard say that the cl/tl tranny is worse.   Same issues?  I've heard nothing good about L10 and Dr. Evil uses an OEM tranny as their base.
00AccordLX5spd
9/27/2007 7:48:03 AM
Haha....save up for a 6 speed swap!  JK I know you are in NY and the traffic would be a mofo with a manual trans car. 
falkore24
9/27/2007 8:35:01 AM
I'd actually love to have the 6 speed, but the swap cost more than the car is worth and I'd like the next car to be smaller so I can get the handling even better (looking for 1.5 g's).  I'm looking at old and newish, but not brand new.  So far, top picks are 91 CRX, 96 Prelude SH and 06 SI.
00AccordLX5spd
9/27/2007 8:37:16 AM
That's probably true.  But swapping a different AT would probably run at least 3k don't you think?
falkore24
9/27/2007 8:47:26 AM
Sounds about right ...... but the MT to AT is over twice that.  The Dr. Evil is about 5g's plus install and you end up with an OEM tranny that's mildly improved.
BlkCurrantKord
9/27/2007 2:10:11 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: falkore24

Sounds about right ...... but the MT to AT is over twice that.  The Dr. Evil is about 5g's plus install and you end up with an OEM tranny that's mildly improved.

 
Yet the manual conversion is only $1k more than the Dr. Evil and more reliable. Replacing a clutch = easier and less $$ than torque converter and clutch packs.
falkore24
9/27/2007 2:15:27 PM
$3g's is borderline out of the question.  5g's for the Dr. Evil is definately out and 6-7g's for the MT swap isn't even being considered.
stevent
9/27/2007 5:12:15 PM
The tl/cl at tranny is much worse than the 6th gen because the failure on those is much higher than it is compared to the 6th gen. That's why when some people do the cl-s engine swap, they their 4sp at. Just do a search on the web or at v6p.net and you'll find out a lot of info.
If you do decide to swap in the tl/cl, the only route I recommend is the manual. By swapping in the auto, you might as well give the 3k to a homless person because the auto in the tl/cl is a waste of money imo.
falkore24
9/28/2007 7:51:07 AM
I'll look into that ..... I'm mainly looking for the best option should I kill my tranny before I'm ready to get a new car.  I'm going to install a Hayden 403 cooler and hopefully it will last another 2 years until I can get myself a 30th b'day gift (newish SI?).  After the tranny cooler, I am going to throw in a 75 wet shot and call it quits on upgrades for this car.  To keep it alive for the next 2 years, I've already ripped out most of the rubber hoses and replaced with silicone, I have silicone radiator hoses that I need to install after I deuche the cooling system with vinegar and water, I plan to change the brake fluid ..... and I'm debating if I'm going to install an oil bypass and dual filtration kit that I bought about 2 years ago.  I've had the plumbing and all the fittings that I need, but it only fits on the passenger side opposite the fuel controller.  I might just save it for the next car (Amsoil full flow + partial flow filters, over 98% efficient at removal of 2 micron particles!)
stevent
9/28/2007 7:32:29 PM
I suggest just keeping your car the way it is and save the money you were going to spend towards your dream car. That's what I'm doing right now. Keeping the accord as the daily and hopefully, hopefully I can afford an M3 haha. Man everyone around me is getting a new car lately, makes me feel out of the loop
falkore24
10/1/2007 8:48:34 AM
Most likely, I'll finish the maintenance items since I have almost 90k.  Add a Hayden 403 tranny cooler and throw in a 75 wet shot .... then call it a day.  I think that this setup will last until I'm ready to sell the car.  Time will tell.
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