91 Honda accord faster?
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RE: 91 Honda accord faster?
accords, along with all fwd vehicles have massive understeer as far as high-speed handling is concerned. if you really want to make a track car pick a rwd car or do a rwd conversion (all custom fab, very hard to do. if you had the ability you wouldnt be asking this question right now)
unless its a fwd only series. then you need a turbo. superchargers will rob a ton of horsepower before they create any with these small engines.
although superchargers are a tad more reliable and predictable.
unless its a fwd only series. then you need a turbo. superchargers will rob a ton of horsepower before they create any with these small engines.
although superchargers are a tad more reliable and predictable.
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RE: 91 Honda accord faster?
well no turbo would "have" to be used, but i would recommend putting some forged pistons + rods along with a T3/T4 turbocharger running around 15-17psi max boost. (any higher and you will have to use racing gas... $$$)
of course i make it sound super simple, but you would need to upgrade a LOT to run that much, but not too much as far as track day cars are concerned.
if its automatic, swap it to manual. costs a grand or two to do it, but you can sell the parts from the automatic for about $600 total, so you can make a lot of that money back.
as far as a turbocharged H22 is concerned, screw that. H22 sucks as far as boost is concerned. if you want 450+ whp, when you put in forged pistons and rods put in some 10.5:1-11:1 compression pistons along with an H22 headswap and ECU swap and knock sensor. BAM you get all the power that the H22 produces, without the drawbacks of weak sleeves.
of course i make it sound super simple, but you would need to upgrade a LOT to run that much, but not too much as far as track day cars are concerned.
if its automatic, swap it to manual. costs a grand or two to do it, but you can sell the parts from the automatic for about $600 total, so you can make a lot of that money back.
as far as a turbocharged H22 is concerned, screw that. H22 sucks as far as boost is concerned. if you want 450+ whp, when you put in forged pistons and rods put in some 10.5:1-11:1 compression pistons along with an H22 headswap and ECU swap and knock sensor. BAM you get all the power that the H22 produces, without the drawbacks of weak sleeves.
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RE: 91 Honda accord faster?
as far as a turbocharged H22 is concerned, screw that. H22 sucks as far as boost is concerned. if you want 450+ whp, when you put in forged pistons and rods put in some 10.5:1-11:1 compression pistons along with an H22 headswap and ECU swap and knock sensor. BAM you get all the power that the H22 produces, without the drawbacks of weak sleeves.
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Okay, I know that right out of the box that the H22 is not the best turbocharged motor, however I have seen, albeit in a magazine, a eg civic running a boosted h22 and squirting i believe a 200 shot. The thing was boosting around 28 lbs so said the article and with the squirt they were making just over 900 whp!! That's insane! They used it strictly for 1/4 mile though. They said the only draw back was hooking up with that much power.
I thought it was all bs until they actually showed dyno sheets of the thing. it was something like 580lbs of torque and 903 whp *with the nitrous*
So, if built correctly, an h22 can take boost to crazy amounts, but honestly you might as well save your money and just build the sohc which has lower compression. It's cheaper that way
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RE: 91 Honda accord faster?
"Manual Capable"
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i side with kord.
when people build H22s to turbocharge them, most people have the resleeved. stock sleeves cant handle too much boost. thats why their bad for boosting. the reason they produce more hp is primarily due to the compression ratio. you need to run some seriously high octane gas in order to run high levels of boost along with high compression pistons, or else youll get detonation up the ying-yang.
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i side with kord.
when people build H22s to turbocharge them, most people have the resleeved. stock sleeves cant handle too much boost. thats why their bad for boosting. the reason they produce more hp is primarily due to the compression ratio. you need to run some seriously high octane gas in order to run high levels of boost along with high compression pistons, or else youll get detonation up the ying-yang.
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