Starting with a bare h22a block and putting in cast iron sleeves.

Anyone have a decent h22 bare block for sale?

I work at a engine rebuild shop so I have access to the tools and machinery to do it myself which will save me atleast 1k

Also any specific sleeve anyOne recommends and price differences

 

Iv heard nothing but good things about darton sleeves. But I know they are pricy. What are your power goals? N/A or FI? I'm gonna assume FI since your sleeving the block. I will keep my eye out for a h22 bock. If you would have done this a year ago I had a h22a4 block I just gave away it needed sleeving and I didn't have the money to do that. B/c my ex hydro locked it and I just got all the parts off it I wanted like my head and stuff and just scraped the block.

Now if you can't find a block. Use a f22/23 block. You will have to do the g22/23 rout but it will be cheaper. IF done right and you pay attention to detail it can be just as reliable as a h22. I even have a few parts I can sell you if you go this route. Like the h22 crank timing gear (hella hard to find)


Come to think of it I know a guy in GA who is selling a running h22 with a f22 trans attached for like 1300. If your interested I can give you his info

 

Yeah I looked up darton but those damn things cost a good 650 for the MID set.

I am going FI, wanting to get a good reliable 300whp by the time I'm done. With some breathing room.

I will go with a F22 trans for the longer gears.

Can you put in a LSD in a F22 trans?

F22 block would save me from sleeving, but I'm hesitant bc I have read your build thread and cautions you have told others

This won't be complete until spring '12

 

if your only looking for 300hp. Why not just go with a boosted f22a? You can pull 300hp easy on a STOCK block.
Now instead of sleeveing the h22 why not save yourself some money and run mahle pistons? They are about $500 and can be run on the OEM h22 CFM sleeves. You hp goals aren’t really that high so I don't see a need for sleeving the block. Un;ess you just want to. Also for 300hp. The f22 gears are going to suck I would look for h23/h22 gears. Yes the f22 can accept a aftermarket LSD. But I would just buy a h22 LSD it will be cheaper in the long run. Aftermarket LSD's are like $700-900. You can find a h22 LSD trans for that price...if not cheaper.

As for the g22. If you do it right with sleeving and paying attention to detail it can be done and will hold up. I know a few guys over on cb7tuner.com who are running them. Heck one guy has a fully built one with a sleeved f22 block bored out to 88 or 89mm. He is making well over 500hp.

 

For power potential.

Is is cheaper to make a f22 handle 300-400 hp than a h22?

Kinda wouldn't mind having a real vtec engine as well

 

if 300whp is your goal(which is far more than enough in a fwd car)

I would just boost a f22. They can make that on a stock block, and if it eventually blows up its $300 to replace. Instead of the $1000+ for a h22.

Save yourself some money, time, and headache and just boost a f22.

 

is vtec really worth the extra $1000-1500 to you?
Heck my boy has a boosted f22a making around 280hp and ppl think he has a turbo h22. The f22 will make some crazy tq. numbers under boost also. I would still try and find yourself a h series trans tho way more fun to drive

 

So if this was your project and you had access to a machine shop like I do, what would you do?

You praise the boosted f22 but your building a g22. Reason why?

What about the jdm f22 dohc? Hard swap?

Either way I'm pulling my current motor and putting a rebuilt one in

 

I wanted a g22 vtec b/c
1) I had all most of the parts lying around.
2) my power goals where little bit higher than yours and the h22 head would help yield that power.
Also I'm not doing my boosted g22 vtec anymore. I'm going with a all motor f20b set up with a h22 head with nitrous. After running everything through my head over and over I'm leaning away from the g22. If I had a side project then yes I would be still be building a g22 vtec.
Now if I had a machine shop at my disposal I would use...
f22a block
f22a6 head (unless you are going to get a better cam then you can use any f22a head) Why I would use a f22a head over a f22b1/2 is b/c of the flow rate.
h23 intake manifold (ported and polished)
63mm (or bigger) throttle body/port matched.
3 way valve job.
rebuild the whole head. Valves springs retainers....
Bisimoto turbo cam shaft (if you don't want to use the stock cam)
bisimoto rods and 9:1:1 c/r bisimoto pistons
balanced knife edged and polished crank shaft

With hat type of work you will easily meet your 300hp goal and still have more room for more power with the right turbo set up.

As for the f22b (dohc) is a great engine but little hard to come by. It is basically a f22 with a h23 head on it. The block is the same as the f22a/b blocks. Just a different head.

 

so i should do away with my f22b1 head?

stick with a f22b1 block or go with f22a?

h23 intake manifold - check
bisimoto rods and pistons --- they have two options for low compression 9.0:1 and 9.1:1 whats the difference. the 9.1:1 are a special package with their h beam rods. but their 9.0:1 are forged and rated to 700hp