heyJim, i appreciate your help. this weekend if the weather isnt too crazy ill have to check all of these things out. staring with the fuel pump? that shouldnt take long after my battery charges. im not thinking that my timing belt is broken bkuz there was not wierd sound that i heard last attempt on trying to start the vehicle. it was trying to start, but it just couldnt. it turned over and all just wouldnt start. although i havent put much work into it since i replaced the radiator and distributor everything else that i have replaced were installed correctly according to my haynes.

 

Well, you're the one who has to keep track of what things have already been checked. It's just that posting in 25 different threads I can get confused which is which. Then I always have to step back & look at just what was done.

 

if i might chime in..........this is getting way too long ..

1... on a earlier post you said that you sprayed ether in the throttle body and car did not start .. that eliminates the fuel pump,, by spraying ether in the throttle body you are basically bypassing the fuel pump

2... remove the oil filler cap.. have someone crank the engine while you look if the cam shafts moves ( rocker arms move,,, ) if they do ,,timing belt is not broken ,, timing belt could have slipped and cam timing is way off ,,chk cam timing as well..

3... have you tested to see if you get spark ????? pull a plug wire off, insert an old plug in the wire , ground the plug ( valve cover ground strap will do ) have someone crank the engine ..if you DO NOT get spark ,, go to the DIY section and read up on the post how to diagnose for lack of spark ,, could be a bad ignitor or coil.... if you get spark ignitor and coil are ok,,,,

4..if and when car starts get rid of those plugs and put in a set of NGK ZFR5F-11..

5...when you turn the key on, does the chk engine lite come on and then it goes off after about 5-6 seconds??

6... any stored codes in the ecu ???

7...if all those are ok,, do a compression test ...

8... doing a poll and ask what is most likely to be wrong is not the proper way to diagnose an issue ,,I even got a chuckle out of that ... what if 4 -5 members said it is a bad relay 4-5 said a bad distributor would you have just replaced it , without even diagnosing it.. so my friend,, no more polls that is not the way to properly diagnose an issue

9...Hondadude is a very good tech ,, he was not laughing at you to insult you or make fun of you ,,,, but being a good tech he diagnoses problems and not just throw 5-6 things out there ,,,,,,,,making a poll is a very odd and wrong way to ask for help and find a solution ...

10.....http://www.techautorepairs.com/ read up and diagnose ,,, we cannot diagnose it from here ,,hope this helps

11... chk the main ecu ground it is located at t-stat housing , make sure that ground wire is tight and ground is not corroded

try all of those and let us know. No more questions till you have tried all of these suggestions ..

AND LAST .. WHeelbrokerang... How do we get rid of the poll ???????

 

Desert,

I copied posts to a new thread, then deleted the original thread with the poll.

 

thanks PA.......:-)

 

sorry for pissing yall off just tryin to get the most feedback and different answers in order to see what has the best possibility ofthe problem. i wasnt meaning for the poll to be a way to get an answer but more or less i used it to state what i thought could be the problem.

 

I for one am not pissed off at all, and i am pretty sure that none of the other members are either .(That's what makes this forum great ,, nobody gets pissed off, no abusive language,, we are here to help people in need but there is only so much that we can do ,,hands on diagnostic is something that people who seek help have to do themselves )...........
Speaking of which,,...have you done any diagnostic work on all the suggestions that you have received from all the members??

Many things could keep an engine from starting, there is why you have to do the eliminating process...

 

thanks man, and i appologize for the obserd language, i didnt mean it in a derogitory way. i havent yet had the time to do any of the testing as of yet, more than likely that will be done this weekend depending on my work schedual. i work too much so by the time i get home i dont have much daylight to do anything. and another thing is that i dont have any portable light either. my friend said i could borrow his compression tester so hopefull i can get back to yall soon.

 

i know this isnt anything that you all had suggested me to do but i had approx. 30 minutes of daylight yesterday to look at my vehic, so i took advantage. i know that when i was replacing the fuel filter that i accidently unplugged some vacuum lines. so i printed off a maping diagram to make sure that they were all still plugged in correctly. and of course they were, so no problems there. also i took off my EGR valve to see what it looked like. it was fairly dirty, and since i already had it off it only made sence to cleen it up as good as i could with what i had. so there is an update of what i did yesterday. clean EGR and correctly routed vacuum lines

 

ok another update. i am deffinatly getting fuel, i sprayed carb cleaner in the throttle body or intake rather and still no start so i took out my fuel injectors to clean up a little bit and tried again, there was gas spuing everywhere so they were for sure getting gasoline. so that leads me to think that somewhere im not getting a strong enough spark... is that possible?