doing a seat swap from 2023 acura tlx type s to 2023 honda accord hybrid

please no safety trolls, i understand the risk but my ability to drive for two hours a day and be able to get out and stand straight is just as important as all the safety involved in modern vehicles. im actually forced to drive my old 99 audi which is VERY comfortable compareed to, but weighs two tons and consumes as much gas, i essentially abandoned the honda since i have purchased hundreds of dollars worth of various cushions and what nots and nothing works.

the seats took awhile for the fake leather to break in to the point that my back is against (what feels like) a metal rod at the seam between top and bottom, and when seats are bottomed out they become even harder and more uncomfortable, further more there are no driver positioning ergonomics or a place to reset your forearms when holding steering which i have yet to see that on any of the two dozens cars ive owned/driven. these accord seats are more uncomfortable than 90s to current jettas, toyotas, audis, ford, even older accords. the seats are also tearing at 20k miles so im really left with no choice.

there are multiple complaints about comfort in hondas, i nearly returned the car and regret not doing so since i had 200 miles to return it according to my local dealer’s policy.



now down to business, i purchased the seats and:

1. bolt pattern, the seats are a direct fit, no issues here
2. airbag, in order to not have to program at honda dealer an acura airbag i am keeping original airbag and swapping it into the acura seats. i have tested this by disconnecting and reconnecting airbag with battery disconnected, no codes
3. seat belt - to be tested for fitment
4. i am aware i may lose some functionality due to compatibility between Honda & Acura BCM (body control modules) which is understandable such as: heating, cooling, memory seats. all im looking to gain honestly is ability to move seats. heating would be a nice to have and likely the least complicated of the 3.
5. power: i have gotten an account with Honda SIS where i can pull diagrams, and i have been scratching my head at them, i see multiple connectors yet i only have one, i suppose its trying to tell me where the wiring goes to for specific pin outs yet i see several of the same connector c238 in the diagram. they charge you $30 a day per vehicle (since honda and acura are in separate systems) which is ok since i could save the diagram to some extent, although i can only save the images and not the full java content that has a ton of links. having said that i forgot to save anything from my last visit to SIS, i can login and post diagrams here but again they are very convoluted without having the full java download of the diagram.

the other issue is i dont have a VIN number and SIS is asking for that to point me to correct diagram for the acura type s seats.

is there anyone in seattle area shop wise who could draw power for these seats?

anyone willing to assist me over a shared msteams session, that has some automotive electrical diagram knowledge to assist me since i dont want to keep spending the $60 on SIS without some direction.



thoughts concerns?



thank you,

 

I'm not familiar with the 2023 setup on Honda/Acura seats. If your relay's and control modules are before the wire harness goes to the seat, then the motors should only have a power and ground wire to operate. The control unit/relay can switch power and ground for forward/reverse.

Look at the number of wires going to the motors and heaters. On the wiring diagram, look to see if the seat position switches have a 1 or 2 wire connection to the BCM.

If you post some pics of the Honda and Acura wiring diagrams on here, we might be able to help.

 

attached the ACURA TLX TYPE S full pdf diagram1.pdf, here is what i think is the main drivers seat connector called an inline c238 connector,
what i dont quite understand why is it showing so many similar connectors in the diagram, like c241, c240, or are they supposed to represent the same connector just different pins part of it?

as you can see 30a power is drawn from fuse relay holder b with pins 1 & 7, and pin 4 is under dash fuse relay box 10a. ill take a look at wiring diagram from honda next if so far im accurate in my statements.
im also noticing these other two pdfs attached detalining connectors and circuit diagrams, will see how those fit in.