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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:50 AM
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Sway bars are part of your suspension, one in the front, one in the rear. They act like giant springs keeping your car level during hard cornering.
 
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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well thats what im here for is it not??....when im referred to somethin i usually as what it does or how will it help....for instance the sway bars....what exactly will it do for my car...as far as changing them anywayz
Please read through the stickied threads in each category. They will help you better understand your car and what different modifications do. I recommend Suspension 2.0, the stuff on CAI vs. SRI (intakes) and exhaust ..... maybe some stuff on general maintenance, HID-s and detailing too if that interests you.
 
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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FI = forced induction

I have the TL-S rear bar on right now, with the stock front. Balances out the steering with a touch of oversteer.

Go to an Acura dealer and order these parts:

52306-SEP-A11 Rear Bushing (you need 2)
52300-SEP-A11 Rear Stabilizer aka Sway Bar (you need 1)
52308-S3M-A00 Rear bushing Bracket (you need 2)

And if you shear a bolt during the install:
93402-08016-08 BOLT-WASHER (8X16) (you need 4 for a brand new install)

And if you cant get the links off like me and need new ones:
52325-S84-A01 Left Stabilizer Link
52320-S84-A01 Right Stabilizer Link

They might cost you a penny though... I had to pay $110 for mine at the dealer, but theyre listed at $30/ea online for OEM ones.

preciate it now i know exactly what to get...this increases what part of performance??
and why do i order these from acura instead of honda??
Well... Acura parts = Acura dealer. I'm sure you could weasle them through a Honda dealer, but its just easier at Acura. And I agree with what everyone else is saying, you have a lot of reading to do. Why don't you spend a few months researching, mainly the "Suspension FAQ 2.0", and all the while save up so you can buy some quality parts when you feel comfortable knowing exactly what each part does.

I can see this thread turning into the last HID thread very quickly, so reading would be good and then asking more specific questions later on would be best.

And if you decided to just order those parts and jump into the install, make sure you have the whole rear end off the ground to take all of the tension off the stock sway. I sent a brake rotor into my face not to long ago being careless and left one wheel on the ground.
 
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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Sway bars are part of your suspension, one in the front, one in the rear. They act like giant springs keeping your car level during hard cornering.
Adding to this... theyre more of a torsion bar than a "spring" necessarily, just so you dont go thinking they have coils and are bouncy. Theyre main purpose is when you are in a corner and the weight of the car transfers to the outside of the corner and compresses the outer 2 wheels' suspension, that compressed energy is transferred down the bar and forces the inner wheels to the ground in order to maintain as much traction as possible.

Different thicknesses of bars have different effects, for example the stock rear sway you have now is 17mm thick, the TL-S one is 19mm(?) and your front one seems to be somewhere around 23-24mm, I havent measured it. After I added the rear sway on a stock suspension the car liked to take corners a lot quicker at any speed, but its hard to explain. Thats what I meant by oversteer, Aaron, not that it technically is oversteering, but in corners it feels like the rear end is swinging out and the car rotates much faster.
 
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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The reason why Acura TL parts are recommended are for two reasons

1) TL-S (performance-based luxury sedan) chassis is compatible to the Accord (6G, 7G)
2) Since it is a performance-based vehicle, the bars are a bit wider => stiffer suspension => better cornering...to an extent. Rear sway makes more difference than front sway for our FWD brethern (counters understeer). Front sway is if you want the complete package, but aftermarket/TL-S front sways aren't that much wider (maybe a couple of mms...at least for the 7G).
 
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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A sleeper is something that people can be stopped next to you at the stop light and think your just drivings moms car around and then you smoke them when the light turns green.
The whole reason of tuning. Seriously. Low-profile is key. No cops will be on your BRIGHT NEON 2F2F paintjob, FARTCAN muffler, BUILDING-size decals, etc.
 
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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Sleeper, are you saying that the TL-S bar is wider (end to end) than the stock one or just wider as in thickness?

6th Gen OEM rear = 17mm
2004-2007 TL-S rear = 19mm

They are exactly the same length, but shaped a littler differently, but still bolt right up without any issues.
 
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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Just to add one point about the sway bars .... the location of the holes has a dramatic effect .... differences in hole placement can have more of an effect than bar thickness or solid vs. hollow. Look at the percentage stiffness increase ratings of the bars.
 
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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well looks like it wont turn into the HID thread...lol...you all gave me plenty of good advice so i think i got it now...thanks
 
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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thickness.

hollow is much stronger/lighter/better than solid and it has to be adjustable. my two cents.
 



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