I got the enjoyment of sitting in prison...not jail for 8months while my attorneys and fam. had to hire an engineer to state the facts that my rear brakes caused a fatal accident resulting with the death 33 year old man. I was charged with vehicle manslaughter due to the brake failure in my 92 accord se. So don’t tell me this can’t happen when I have lived it. YES brakes with low pads can cause fatal accidents. I don’t care what the hell you say. You haven’t had to go through what I did. Brakes are a very important component when it comes to a vehicle....and that’s why Id sue the living crap out of honda if they wouldn’t fix this prob. I didn’t want to have to play this card but chip you pissed me off trying to tell me that s hit like this can’t happen and that is a "stretch of my imagination" So chip next time learn your god damn facts!!!

 

Wow, that's crazy! What happened? You had to come back around on an appeal or what? What facility were you locked up in? What did they originally convict you of anyway?

I'm actually on D.O.C. papers myself right now and I know exactly how you feel with respect to being locked up (if it's any consolation). I'm not tryin' to **** you off. I'm discussing an issue, on a discussion board. Isn't that what we're doing here?

The fact of the matter is that all brake pads, on all vehicles, have warning indicators that alert the driver long before there is any metal to metal contact. Your situation truely is tragic, and I won't comment on that, because I don't know anything about it, and I won't sit here and pretend to know what you must have went through as a result of that. I'd actually be interested in the specifics of your accident! Do you have any idea how ****ing unlucky you have to be for some **** like that to happen?

The only thing that matters to me, is that people understand that it is our job to properly maintain our own cars, not Honda's! And with the proper knowledge, things like this would be almost unheard of. Sure, crazy BUTT freak accidents will always happen. We can't do anything about that, but for every one situation like yours, you've got a million people who just want something for nothing and/or someone else to point the finger at when they're actually at fault, and that kinda **** runs companies out of business every day! If you're Honda, you're kinda ****ed either way: You lose money if you agree to fix a problem you don't agree with and pass that cost on to the next buyer, or you stand by what you believe in and lose money by losing customers. It's a no win situation for them either way, so don't get mad at them. They're losing no matter what. You see what I'm sayin'?

Anyway, I enjoy our conversations, so don't get bent outta shape. Just try to remember this is why we're both here in the first place! As long as we're both trying to help each other understand our own unique points of view, and not just being dicks for no reason, WE ARE IN FACT PROGRESSING! We're helping to open up each others minds, and I can definitely appreciate that!

 

I’m sorry that I got the way I did but you have to understand this is a really sore subject for me. I was in WCI when I was 19years old. To make this simple I fought this for 3months with mutable attorneys. Had to hire an engineer to show the facts that my rear brakes where to blame adn the charges where droped. My brake pad indicator where actually missing on my OEM Honda pads. Never knew that the pads where worn out the car stopped on a dime. The pads where replaced 2months be4 the wreck by Procter Honda in Tallahassee…I had a hook up and got my work done for next to nothing. But as of now I do my own work to make sure things are done right. But my pads worn so badly and I had no idea that the brake fluid ate away at my piston seals and caused my brakes to lock up and lose control of the car and sideswiped another car causing it to hit a tree at about 65mph. They said the guy died instantly. He wasn’t warring his seat belt and went right through the windshield. They say it wouldn’t have mattered if he was warring one or not he would have most likely died any ways.
The reason I got so mad about this was b/c this can happen to anyone that has no idea about brakes. I mean my ex girl had bad pads on her civic for 3months and had no idea b/c Honda told her it was her semi metallic pads that were used on the car. When the simple fact was the pads where so badly gone it destroyed the rotors. Don’t get me wrong I love Honda to death I will always own a Honda but when it comes to brakes systems it is a must they fix something that is a defect or wrong there is no way around it with me after the stuff I went through. I have to live with the fact that I caused someone to die b/c of faulty equipment. It’s hard and nothing I can do about it anymore. I go to the guy’s grave every year on the day he died…every year to pay my respect and I leave a set of cb7 new brake pads on top of his grave every damn year. Most of the time I will sit for hrs and hrs talking to a dead guy I have never meet and drink till I can’t see straight. That’s how much it pains me. I have a huge heart…even if it is for someone I don’t even know.

 

BTW Angelo can we have this thread moved to Off topic where it belongs???

 

Done Deal For You Guys..Is every one okay now?

WheelBrokerAng

 

See, this ^^^^ is the answer to the brake issues we were talkin' about IMO! We need to help educate each other on these issues to prevent things like this from happening! If someone reads your story and still doesn't bother to learn and understand the most important part on their car, then that's on them! I firmly believe that Honda should fix any defects in any of their products, and I also firmly believe that they would, if in fact they were to blame! I just can't stand the thought of people not caring enough about their own safety to at least learn what the hell their brakes are, or even where they're at! That's why so many people get ripped off when they get car work done. Nobody seems to care enough to learn ANYTHING about their vehicles, and that's THE MOST dangerous place most people will ever be in their lives! Most people don't even stop to think about that! IMO, a lawsuit won't fix that, but stories like yours will! As much as it must hurt, you should share that story whenever you can. Help people understand just how quick it can happen, and how easily it can be avoided! By doing that, your 33 year old friend will still have purpose in this world. His death wouldn't have been for nothing. Maybe you guys might save other people from experiencing that!?!

Education is the answer! We should all know at least a few important things about the vehicle we trust with our lives on a daily basis! We take too many things for granted, and that's a shame!

Well, thanks for sharing g! Hopefully some other 19 year old reads this thread and decides to take the time to get to know his/her car a little better!

 

trust me for the last 4 years my brakes get done be4 the pads even ware out I'm that cautious about brakes now. Even 4 years ago I knew allot about hondas and I was easily fooled. Iv been in the honda game since I was 14. Help build one of the first h23 vtec in our area. Be4 ppl even knew you could swap a h22 head on a h23 block. I mean I know my stuff its just shows how easily someone can be fooled with bad brakes.

 

yeah everything is fine with us

 

No doubt! That's why I trust no one when it comes to that stuff! Nobody is going to care about your safety more than you do, and that's why I do my own work. That way I know it gets done right!

My first car was a 1990 Honda Accord EX coupe. It ran great. The very first problem I had with it was the brakes. All it needed was pads, but I since I never bothered to learn anything about the car, I had no idea what was going on! I took it to a shop to find out what was wrong, and the guy could tell I didn't know my butt from a hole in the ground, so he gave me this bull**** story about how my brake fluid was boiling over, and how I needed like 2 grand worth of work done. I couldn't afford that, so I just kept driving it like that untill the bakes were metal to metal and eventually ended up welding themselves to the rotor, locking the brake system up and destroying the rotors. All because I was too stupid to realize that all I needed in the first place was a twenty dollar pair of pads!! I still hate myself for that! LoL! Luckily nothing bad happened, but it sure as hell could have!

I remember the Frankensteins too! I wanted to do a boosted '92 integra with the LS block and GSR head soooo bad!!! Man, that feels like forever ago now!

 

I want to take a 92 gsr teg and swap for a boosted h23 vtec. It would be soo unique. As far as I know no one has done it yet.