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Prospector 08-29-2015 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by travrach (Post 362635)
It is a pain to dispose of, but any place that sells oil must also take it back as waste.

Is that some kind of local ordinance?

Nowhere in this area 'must' take it back, most places will recycle it, though, for a nominal fee.. sometimes as low as $5... while other shops tack on a disposal fee or include the service with the oil change

shipo 08-29-2015 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Prospector (Post 362638)
Is that some kind of local ordinance?

Nowhere in this area 'must' take it back, most places will recycle it, though, for a nominal fee.. sometimes as low as $5... while other shops tack on a disposal fee or include the service with the oil change

Must be by locality; here in New Hampshire stores which sell oil will recycle it for free.

travrach 08-30-2015 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Prospector (Post 362638)
Is that some kind of local ordinance?

Nowhere in this area 'must' take it back, most places will recycle it, though, for a nominal fee.. sometimes as low as $5... while other shops tack on a disposal fee or include the service with the oil change

Hmm, sorry seems so, looks like most of New England does this, NY, MA, NH, maybe others.

Those who don't have this can look here, and check if free..
Motor Oil Recycling Locations

brocko 10-27-2015 08:56 AM

Magnuson act
 

Originally Posted by Prospector (Post 362536)
Interesting..

By using the pump method, isn't there the possibility of a sludge build-up in the bottom of the oil pan?

Forget about the pump, just drain and fill according to the engineers that built your vehicle

This is from the adv auto website:


.......
Filters and Manufacturer’s Warranties

Consumer purchasers of automotive filters are sometimes told by an automobile dealer’s service writer or mechanic that a brand of replacement filter cannot be used in the consumer’s vehicle during the warranty period. The claim is made that use of the brand will “void the warranty,” with the statement or implication that only the original equipment brand of filters may be used. This, of course, tends to cast doubt on the quality of the replacement filter.

That claim is simply not true. If the consumer asks for the statement in writing, he will not receive it. Nevertheless, the consumer may feel uneasy about using replacement filters that are not original equipment. With the large number of do-it-yourselfers who prefer to install their own filters, this misleading claim should be corrected.

Under the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act, 15U.S.C. SS 2301-2312 (1982) and general principles of the Federal Trade Commission Act, a manufacturer may not require the use of any brand of filter (or any other article) unless the manufacturer provides the item free of charge under the terms of the warranty.

So, if the consumer is told that only the original equipment filter will not void the warranty, he should request that the OE filter be supplied free of charge. If he is charged for the filter, the manufacturer will be violating the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act and other applicable law.

By providing this information to consumers, the Filter Manufacturers Council can help to combat the erroneous claim that a brand of replacement filter other than the original equipment will “void the warranty.”

It should be noted that the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act is a federal law that applies to consumer products. The Federal Trade Commission has authority to enforce the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act, including obtaining injunctions and orders containing affirmative relief. In addition, a consumer can bring suit under the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act.

Biffy44 10-27-2015 11:23 AM

Thanks brocko. I am going to ask my dealer this exact question: "Must I install a Honda OE oil filter". And hopefully I will remember the name Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act :p


Originally Posted by brocko (Post 364245)
Forget about the pump, just drain and fill according to the engineers that built your vehicle

This is from the adv auto website:


.......
Filters and Manufacturer’s Warranties

Consumer purchasers of automotive filters are sometimes told by an automobile dealer’s service writer or mechanic that a brand of replacement filter cannot be used in the consumer’s vehicle during the warranty period. The claim is made that use of the brand will “void the warranty,” with the statement or implication that only the original equipment brand of filters may be used. This, of course, tends to cast doubt on the quality of the replacement filter.

That claim is simply not true. If the consumer asks for the statement in writing, he will not receive it. Nevertheless, the consumer may feel uneasy about using replacement filters that are not original equipment. With the large number of do-it-yourselfers who prefer to install their own filters, this misleading claim should be corrected.

Under the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act, 15U.S.C. SS 2301-2312 (1982) and general principles of the Federal Trade Commission Act, a manufacturer may not require the use of any brand of filter (or any other article) unless the manufacturer provides the item free of charge under the terms of the warranty.

So, if the consumer is told that only the original equipment filter will not void the warranty, he should request that the OE filter be supplied free of charge. If he is charged for the filter, the manufacturer will be violating the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act and other applicable law.

By providing this information to consumers, the Filter Manufacturers Council can help to combat the erroneous claim that a brand of replacement filter other than the original equipment will “void the warranty.”

It should be noted that the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act is a federal law that applies to consumer products. The Federal Trade Commission has authority to enforce the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act, including obtaining injunctions and orders containing affirmative relief. In addition, a consumer can bring suit under the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act.


shipo 10-27-2015 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Biffy44 (Post 364250)
Thanks brocko. I am going to ask my dealer this exact question: "Must I install a Honda OE oil filter". And hopefully I will remember the name Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act :p

No, you do NOT need a Honda OEM filter; that said, if you use your dealership for oil changes, they will probably use the Honda filter. As for the oil extractors, they make the oil change process extremely easy and dramatically reduce the mess potential; those who recommend against using such units haven't really tried them.

Prospector 10-27-2015 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by brocko (Post 364245)
Forget about the pump, just drain and fill according to the engineers that built your vehicle

This is from the adv auto website:


.......
Filters and Manufacturer’s Warranties

Consumer purchasers of automotive filters are sometimes told by an automobile dealer’s service writer or mechanic that a brand of replacement filter cannot be used in the consumer’s vehicle during the warranty period. The claim is made that use of the brand will “void the warranty,” with the statement or implication that only the original equipment brand of filters may be used. This, of course, tends to cast doubt on the quality of the replacement filter.

That claim is simply not true. If the consumer asks for the statement in writing, he will not receive it. Nevertheless, the consumer may feel uneasy about using replacement filters that are not original equipment. With the large number of do-it-yourselfers who prefer to install their own filters, this misleading claim should be corrected.

Under the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act, 15U.S.C. SS 2301-2312 (1982) and general principles of the Federal Trade Commission Act, a manufacturer may not require the use of any brand of filter (or any other article) unless the manufacturer provides the item free of charge under the terms of the warranty.

So, if the consumer is told that only the original equipment filter will not void the warranty, he should request that the OE filter be supplied free of charge. If he is charged for the filter, the manufacturer will be violating the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act and other applicable law.

By providing this information to consumers, the Filter Manufacturers Council can help to combat the erroneous claim that a brand of replacement filter other than the original equipment will “void the warranty.”

It should be noted that the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act is a federal law that applies to consumer products. The Federal Trade Commission has authority to enforce the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act, including obtaining injunctions and orders containing affirmative relief. In addition, a consumer can bring suit under the Magnuson – Moss Warranty Act.

Thanks, Brocko... this is good to know


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