General Tech Help Good at troubleshooting? Have a non specific issue? Discuss general tech topics here.

02 Accord stalling/dying... EGR, IACV or?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 22, 2009 | 05:37 PM
  #1  
njmodi's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 48
From:
Default 02 Accord stalling/dying... EGR, IACV or?

Car: 02 Accord, 2.3L 4cyl - 5speed, 80k miles

I've posted in the past about random stalling both at highway speeds and low-speed city driving.

I've read about the root causes being: main relays, ignition switches, igniters...

Current Symptoms:

It's hot and humid here in Chicago - and the symptoms are markedly worse.

At low speed driving, when I'm coming to a stop and have clutch pressed, the idle drops as the car is slowing down and just goes all the way to zero and the car dies. I can restart the car without any issues (restarts immediately, usually while still rolling). This has gotten much worse since it got hot and humid.

Maintenance I have performed (all using Honda parts)
1. Ignition switch
2. NGK plugs
3. Spark plug wires
4. Distributor cap rotor and gasket

I'm thinking it's a dirty/sticking IACV or sticking EGR valve. Any one have any thoughts on which one is more likely or anything else I can do to help isolate the problem one way or the other. The idle is intermittently very low/choppy, sometimes stabilizes. Having AC on/off seems to make no difference.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions/help.
 
Old Jun 22, 2009 | 07:45 PM
  #2  
TexasHonda's Avatar
Super Moderator : And A Texan
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,652
From: Katy, TX
Default

Is CEL every illuminated or never? If yes, then get codes and post them. W/o them we're guessing.

Try connecting a vacuum supply line directly to the EGR from vacuum source w/ engine running. If this makes engine rough rougher or die, the EGR valve is opening on demand. If no change the EGR, may be stuck open or closed.

As possible solution, clean throttle plate (both sides) and bore of throttle body w/ throttle body cleaner. Remove and clean IACV movement.

good luck
 
Old Jun 22, 2009 | 08:40 PM
  #3  
njmodi's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 48
From:
Default

Originally Posted by TexasHonda
Is CEL every illuminated or never? If yes, then get codes and post them. W/o them we're guessing.

Try connecting a vacuum supply line directly to the EGR from vacuum source w/ engine running. If this makes engine rough rougher or die, the EGR valve is opening on demand. If no change the EGR, may be stuck open or closed.

As possible solution, clean throttle plate (both sides) and bore of throttle body w/ throttle body cleaner. Remove and clean IACV movement.

good luck
Thanks for the suggestions - CEL is not on - is there any chance there are codes stored with the light remaining off (the bulb does work).
 
Old Jun 22, 2009 | 08:57 PM
  #4  
PAhonda's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,331
From: Houston, TX
Default

Its possible, but not likely that a code is stored.

Its free to have checked out at an autoparts store. While you are there, have your battery tested. I would check that all ends of both battery cables are clean and secure. Check the wiring from the alternator to the battery too. These are likely not your problem, but its worthwhile to be thorough.
 
Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:11 PM
  #5  
njmodi's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 48
From:
Default

Ok - so I spent a few hours this weekend cleaning out the TB/IACV/EGR and the idle seems much smoother and <keeping my fingers crossed> I have not had any stalls yet. The problem is very intermittent - so I won't believe it's fixed until I've gone a few weeks without issues.

There was definitely gunk on the IACV and the TB/butterfly-plate was covered in carbon/deposits. The EGR line from the valve to intake manifold seemed clear.

I was surprised as to how much coolant dripped out from the lines on the IACV/TB. I ended up just doing a drain/fill on the coolant and oil change while I was at it.

Thanks for the feedback.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
olgirlkeepsrunnin
General Tech Help
4
Jan 31, 2010 02:37 PM
kimberlei
Engine & Internal
3
Sep 11, 2008 05:02 PM
RJLhonda
General Tech Help
3
Sep 9, 2008 01:05 AM
AKcord
General Tech Help
2
May 23, 2007 09:34 AM
adamc44
Engine & Internal
4
Mar 26, 2007 11:05 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:43 AM.