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Old Sep 6, 2024 | 01:27 PM
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Hey guys
so the clutch in this car presses very firmly.
Almost twice as hard as my 02 Tacoma.
No i have not put a force gauge to it.

I replaced the master and slave cylinders with "exedy" components. The master has the Mysterious Triangular Thing (deleted). I assumed it looked like a failure point and some extraneous engineering id never seen before.... is this some sort of pressure relief?? Does the exedy master have a larger bore or something? I do feel like the old leaking components were also pretty firm though.

Otherwise there is now a braided stainless clutch fluid line and a good tight clutch. No awful screeches from the clutch when pushed or other signs of mechanical problems

The pedal was out of adjustment until yesterday.
The pedal clevis was at the end of the pushrod into the master. It is now at the minimum length. It was previously 3x harder to push past half-travel. It was fully functional at half travel but had to shove it harder to the floor to start. Felt like it was flexing the diaphragm fingers on the clutch to get the rest of the way. This is no longer the case. It smoothly goes to the floor without any increase in resistance, and much less force, its just still too much. Just drove 30 mins to work and i was ready to be done. Filipina wifey is half my size and also says it hurts.

Any suggestions?
Do i need to YEET this Exedy master?
is an inline booster/ pressure changing device a thing?

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Old Sep 6, 2024 | 03:26 PM
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What part did you delete?
 
Old Sep 7, 2024 | 12:14 AM
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What part did you delete?

The cylinder i used does not have this

Thinking about adding this
 
Old Sep 7, 2024 | 12:18 AM
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The thing in the second pic apparently is an inline ie remotely mounted Wherever brake booster spec'd for an mg-b. They have been successfully adapted to clutch use.... look very interesting.
 
Old Sep 7, 2024 | 12:32 PM
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I would reinstall the part you deleted on the clutch master and see how the clutch pedal behaves.
 
Old Sep 7, 2024 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PAhonda
I would reinstall the part you deleted on the clutch master and see how the clutch pedal behaves.
unfortunately that was an old leaking mc with rusted up fittings. In order to "put it back on" id have to buy another new mc
 
Old Sep 7, 2024 | 05:37 PM
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I guess that I misread your original post. Thought you deleted something from the new MC, but it was something on the original MC. The Exedy didn't come with that piece.

Reducing the push-rod length makes sense, because you probably were at the physical stop in the master cylinder when you pushed the pedal all the way in. So you had the hydraulics pushed in, but your pedal wasn't closing the clutch pedal switch.

The clutch hydraulics are fairly simple components, so I'm not sure about your next step. It is possible that you damaged the cup seal in the new master cylinder causing it to stick or maybe bent the push-rod? You'd have to remove and disassemble the new master cylinder to check. You can try reinstalling the original slave cylinder to see if the new slave cylinder is sticking and causing the hard pedal. To me, you'll have to troubleshoot by trial and error.
 
Old Sep 8, 2024 | 02:18 PM
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Doesnt seem to be suffering from damaged seals or pushrods and such, though i could see how it could have happened from being adjusted out.

Honestly it functions great. Its just firmer than expected. I did just recall that the clutch kit i put in the tacoma im comparing it to said it was a lighter throw than average.

Mostly its an option of A- buck up and drive it as is, or B- get one of those crazy inline boosters. Guys say they work great. Theres just the concern of getting one with too high of a boost ratio and losing all pedal feel


Haha and no
Even if i still had it the slave absolutely could not be reinstalled. The new slave didnt come with the line adapter. Tried to remove and reuse... was corroded in place, destroyed the slave with a chisel to get the pins out lololz all to find out the adapter was corroded enough that i didnt wanna use it

Hah and you should have watched me remove the leaking ac compressor.... all 4 bolts in the holes with the heads off... had to destroy the bolt-tubes with a grinder and a chisel. That was dramatic
 

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