1996 2.2 lx 5 speed please help!!!! Desperate
#12
You mentioned that you used three different distributors, so did you swap out the entire distributor (housing with that pickup) too?
You may want to test for codes again, since you have swapped a bunch of parts, just to be thorough.
You may want to test for codes again, since you have swapped a bunch of parts, just to be thorough.
#13
I thought you swapped out the entire distributor too. Since you've swapped out the ECU with no result, perhaps there's an open or short in the harness between the ECU and distributor connector. The link says that you should have 800Ω - 1500Ω between ECU terminals C4 and C14, which is what you should also have between terminals 2 and 4 of the unplugged distributor connector.
#14
Ok just an update I tested the resistance of the sensor on the connector at the distributor and I have 365 ohms. I don't have much experience with a multimeter but miness got 5 settings in the ohms section. 200, 2000, 20k, 200k and 2000k. I used the 2000 setting. Is it supposd to be between 800 and 1500 or 350 to 700? I've heard both I wantedd to check the ecu connector pinout for resistance to but didn't know the pinouts on the ecu for the cps to rule out a short. I see the pinouts above will check and repost. Let me know about that sensor resistance guys.
#15
According to the '96 FSM Supplement:
Is there 700 - 1300 Ω (F22B1 engine), 350 - 700 Ω (except F22B1 engine)?
But that supplement shows an OBD1 distributor with the CKP & TDC sensors inside the distributor, which is wrong. The CYP sensor from my '96 F22B2 measured slightly under spec @ 340 Ω and I was getting an intermittent DTC 9. Never any running problems, though.
#16
Mine read 365. And when I crank the car for about 10 seconds the cel comes back on same code and car still won't turn over with only soark still coming from the number 3 plug only. I don't get it. I have the original distributor too and its off the car and its reading 358 ohms. Hmm I wonder if my haynes manual will tell me?
#17
Ok just looked at my haynes manual it says
Cyp sensor resistance
1994 and 1995 4 cyl models.
Non vtech-350-700 ohms
Vtech- 700-1300 ohms
1996 and later (all models except v6)
800-1500 ohms
Now my question is will the resistance of the sensor in the distributor be any different if its not on the car. My original posted above is off the car and checked at 358 ohms. Only 7 ohms difference between the one off and on the car
Cyp sensor resistance
1994 and 1995 4 cyl models.
Non vtech-350-700 ohms
Vtech- 700-1300 ohms
1996 and later (all models except v6)
800-1500 ohms
Now my question is will the resistance of the sensor in the distributor be any different if its not on the car. My original posted above is off the car and checked at 358 ohms. Only 7 ohms difference between the one off and on the car
#18
It does have the F22B2 engine. my last post is verbatim out of my haynes manual first page shows specs of all sensors chapter 6-1 if anyone has one. so if it is as the book says time to get another distributor. I'm goin to the yard and my multimeters comin with me!! Lol dam this car lol.
Last edited by pmb1903; 01-31-2013 at 09:32 AM.
#19
I deleted my previous post with some incorrect info. regarding your 96.
Here is what I got now:
DTCS P1381 & P1382 - CYLINDER POSITION - (CYP) SENSOR
NOTE: DTC P1381 indicates intermittent interruption in CYP sensor circuit. DTC P1382 indicates no signal in CYP sensor circuit.
1. Perform PCM reset procedure. Start engine. If DTCs P1381 and/or P1382 are not present, system is okay at this time. Failure is intermittent. Check for poor connections or loose wires between CYP connector and PCM connectors. If DTCs P1381 and/or P1382 are present, turn ignition off. Disconnect distributor connector.
2. On Accord (F22B1 engine), measure resistance between sensor terminals No. 4 (CYPP) and No. 5 (CYPM). On Accord (F22B2 engine), measure resistance between sensor terminals No. 2 (CYPP) and No. 4 (CYPM). Resistance should be 800-1500 ohms.
3. If resistance is not as specified, replace distributor. If resistance is as specified, check for continuity between ground and CYP sensor terminals No. 4 and 5 (Accord F22B1) or terminals No. 2 and 4 (Accord F22B2) individually. If continuity exists, replace distributor.
4. If no continuity exists, reconnect distributor connector. Disconnect PCM connector. Measure resistance between PCM connector terminals C4 and C14 If resistance is not 800-1500 ohms, repair open in appropriate wire(s).
5. If resistance is 800-1500 ohms, check for continuity between ground and PCM connector terminals C4. If continuity exists, repair short in appropriate wire(s). If continuity does not exist, substitute a known-good PCM and recheck. If symptom or problem goes away, replace original PCM.
Here is what I got now:
DTCS P1381 & P1382 - CYLINDER POSITION - (CYP) SENSOR
NOTE: DTC P1381 indicates intermittent interruption in CYP sensor circuit. DTC P1382 indicates no signal in CYP sensor circuit.
1. Perform PCM reset procedure. Start engine. If DTCs P1381 and/or P1382 are not present, system is okay at this time. Failure is intermittent. Check for poor connections or loose wires between CYP connector and PCM connectors. If DTCs P1381 and/or P1382 are present, turn ignition off. Disconnect distributor connector.
2. On Accord (F22B1 engine), measure resistance between sensor terminals No. 4 (CYPP) and No. 5 (CYPM). On Accord (F22B2 engine), measure resistance between sensor terminals No. 2 (CYPP) and No. 4 (CYPM). Resistance should be 800-1500 ohms.
3. If resistance is not as specified, replace distributor. If resistance is as specified, check for continuity between ground and CYP sensor terminals No. 4 and 5 (Accord F22B1) or terminals No. 2 and 4 (Accord F22B2) individually. If continuity exists, replace distributor.
4. If no continuity exists, reconnect distributor connector. Disconnect PCM connector. Measure resistance between PCM connector terminals C4 and C14 If resistance is not 800-1500 ohms, repair open in appropriate wire(s).
5. If resistance is 800-1500 ohms, check for continuity between ground and PCM connector terminals C4. If continuity exists, repair short in appropriate wire(s). If continuity does not exist, substitute a known-good PCM and recheck. If symptom or problem goes away, replace original PCM.
Last edited by redbull-1; 10-07-2013 at 10:45 AM.