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06-16-2014, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent Paul

There is a lot of road construction and dusty roads near where I work. I can't ever recall an oem filter lasting more than 15k miles. By that point it's completely black. But again where I drive it's a dirty, dusty environment. There is an gravel pit directly behind where I work and lots of dump trucks hauling dirt. To me long term a reusable would be worth it. It's 15 bucks at Napa for a paper filter. I think it would pay for itself.

Keep in mind that a dirty filter filters *better* than a brand new clean one, and many-many times better than a reusable one. Also keep in mind that a dirty filter on a modern fuel injected car does not mean a reduction in fuel economy. So, if fuel economy isn't improved by replacing the filter, and if filtering isn't improved either, then how will a cleanable filter pay for itself?

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06-16-2014, 11:44 PM

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Paying 15 bucks a year for a filter adds up over time.
I plan on keeping my car for at least 10 years.

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06-17-2014, 04:02 AM

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Paying 15 bucks a year for a filter adds up over time.
I plan on keeping my car for at least 10 years.

Then you probably don't want to use a reusable filter; too much engine wear due to poor filtering.

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06-17-2014, 07:24 AM

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ive had my honda since 2002, same time i swapped in a k&n filter, 12 yrs later it still runs fine and no issues, i find your claim to be a little mis leading^^^

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06-17-2014, 08:41 AM

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ive had my honda since 2002, same time i swapped in a k&n filter, 12 yrs later it still runs fine and no issues, i find your claim to be a little mis leading^^^

Anecdotal comments like the above are irrelevant; do a little research on sites which show actual data (like BobIsTheOilGuy [DOT] com) and look at how high the silicone (sand) and wear metals are in oil taken from engines with aftermarket air filters.

Some folks in some locations may well get away with it, others will not be so fortunate.

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06-17-2014, 05:28 PM

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i could two crap loads less about what bob the oil guy says,not to be rude,,i stand by my comments and based on my last 10 + yrs it will last another 10 easy,,carry on,,

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06-17-2014, 05:45 PM

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i could two crap loads less about what bob the oil guy says,not to be rude,,i stand by my comments and based on my last 10 + yrs it will last another 10 easy,,carry on,,

It isn't what Bob says (Bob doesn't say much these days, however, the collective over there has lots and lots to say), it is the data captured in the (literally) thousands of used oil analysis reports contained in their public database which does all of the talking (at least to those willing to read and learn).

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06-18-2014, 08:30 AM

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One thing I discovered by using K&N is that you need to clean your throttle body and plenum more frequently, as the K&N doesn't keep that as clean.

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06-23-2014, 07:58 PM

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For the cost of a new vehicle or repairs just spend the extra couple cents and get a GOOD quality paper filter. The oiled filter thing ended with my 1960 ford f-100 which an oil BATH filter, although my ford 2n tractor still does have an oil bath filter [built 1942-1947 & still earns its keep].