hmmmmmm ok i understand...

 

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Originally Posted by f22swap

yes everything is attached and clean...i just a distributor last night from this kid who wrecked his car 2 weeks ago...so it should be fine...and the firing sequence is corect..honestly i think it might be that relay now that u say something about it...its gonna be another task im sure tho

ha ha ha. Fuel and spark are two separate issues.

I resoldered the my main relay and did not have spark from the distributor. Replaced it twice and I had spark and she runs like a champ.

AFTER you repair the relay check for the fuel pump noise by turning the ignition to the "on" position". Afterwards disconnect the battery and proceed to setting everything back in the motor to TDC.

Did you check to see if your cam was moving when you were turning the motor?

You can get an assistant to try to crank the car with the key. Pull the oil cap, shine a flashlight in and when the engine cranks, look to see if your cam and rocker arms are moving. You only need to crank for a few seconds (2-3) to see this happen. If there is no camshaft movement and no rocker arm movement then I would put a culprit at a broken timing belt. This is the least likely scenario.

 

what is TDC? and yes i already checked for cam and rocker arm movement and there was..

 

but shouldnt the fuel pump have NOTHING to do with no spark...is there like a relay for that?

 

Fuel & spark are indeed 2 separate issues. When it doesn't start, you FIRST need to decide which one is missing. Before spending a bunch of money on distributor parts.

Distributor, coil, & spark are not powered through the main relay.

TDC = top-dead-center. The position of the crankshaft & camshaft when checking the alignment ("timing") of the camshaft.

 

TDC is Top Dead Centre. This is where the piston in the #1 cylinder is at the top of the block or the compression cycle. This is crucial to have your #1 piston at TDC before you install a distributor, replace timing belts, etc.

Since your camshaft moves, then you still have your timing belt in tact.

I am not sure if the markings for TDC on the auto's are on the crankpulley or not. On most cars the pulley can have a "notch" in it. On the timing covers they can have a 0,5,10 marks on them to indicate where your timing is when you are adjusting the timing.

In the manual transmissions on the F22A1 Engines you can see the TDC mark on the flywheel. Next time I am at the junk yard I will take a look.

 

True.

You can just spend $20.00 to $30.00 on a pre owned distributor at a self serve auto wrecker and get the whole thing. This is a much better alternative than testing, swaping out parts, purchasing new parts (which are actually used as they have been tested) and finding out that may or may not cure your issue.

 

how do you know FOR SURE if your #1 piston is at TDC? will that cause no spark?

 

See my post about the timing marks.

You will still have spark if you are not at TDC.

You can install a distributor 1 of two ways. The first way is have everything at TDC and making sure the rotor is positioned to the #1 spark plug wire.

Other way is you could go in blind, hook it up and you could be out 180 degrees on your timing.

The TDC approach is prefered and less frustrating.

 

well one thing is the distributor would only go in one way....but it looked like (i forgot what the plastic thong with the metal on the end of it is called) it was NOT pointing to the number one wire....but if i tried to point it to the number one which is exactly oppisite it wont fit