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Old 09-11-2018, 09:01 PM
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I want to have a spare ignition key made for the 1999 Honda Accord I just bought. No one at the hardware store was trained to make a copy of a chip key - so I asked for just a door key for now. All 3 they made (2 different employees) were unsuccessful. Tried them in both doors. My key is fine in both. Could they have cut it incorrectly 3 times? I was told maybe my key is worn. I'll try the local Honda dealership. I've had spare keys made successfully before at this local Ace Hardware store. If it is a mechanical situation I suppose I could buy a spare remote, but of course for big bucks. I wonder if anyone has run into a similar situation?
 
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:32 AM
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Has anyone verified that the procedure below works for the 6th generation accord?

Instructions to program a keyless remote for a 1998 Honda Accord.
This might work for other year models too, I can't believe that some guys actually charge for this info so here it is.

Have all remotes for the vehicle on hand, make sure that all doors and rear hatch or trunk are closed during programming, Only need to use one remote to get into program mode but all remotes must be programmed during the same session.
Each step must be completed with in 5 seconds

1. Sit in the car with all doors and truck tightly closed.

2. Turn the key to the on position, marked by "II" on the ignition bezel so the dash lights come on, then with in 5 seconds press the "Lock" button on the remote for 1 second or so and release the button.

3. Turn the key to the off position, marked by "I" on the ignition bezel so the dash lights go off.

4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 three more times ( A total of 4 times) each step must be done with in 5 seconds of the previous step.

5. Upon the fourth turning of the key to "on" , press the lock button on one remote and the locks will make a cycling sound (clunk) locks will not lock or unlock at this point , they will just make a noise. The system is now in "programming mode" do not turn key off. ( If you only have one remote skip to step 7.)

6. With in 5 seconds of entering the programming mode and within 5 seconds of each other, press the lock button on each remote that you are programming, for a second or so and release. This step needs to be completed with in 10 seconds. Each time a remote button is pushed, the locks should cycle. Up to 3 remotes can be programmed.

7. Turn the ignition off and remove the key. Step out of the car and close the door. The remotes should be programmed and should work. If you have a trunk/hatch release, the button for this feature needs to be held down for a few seconds before the trunk/hatch will pop.
The above procedure was copied from the website below:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-...ccord-1477970/
 
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:35 AM
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To the OP, let us know what you ended up doing to solve the problem.
 
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Stevek66 View Post
I want to have a spare ignition key made for the 1999 Honda Accord I just bought. No one at the hardware store was trained to make a copy of a chip key - so I asked for just a door key for now. All 3 they made (2 different employees) were unsuccessful. Tried them in both doors. My key is fine in both. Could they have cut it incorrectly 3 times? I was told maybe my key is worn. I'll try the local Honda dealership. I've had spare keys made successfully before at this local Ace Hardware store. If it is a mechanical situation I suppose I could buy a spare remote, but of course for big bucks. I wonder if anyone has run into a similar situation?
I had my wife take her 2000 Accord to the dealer and have them make a 2nd chipped key. It cost 70 bucks, but they made it to the VIN, and programed the ECU for both keys. Well worth the 70 bucks, as I have a copy and she has a copy. I can do oil changes on it, without needing her key, and when we go on road trips, we both have a key to the car. One of these days, I'll do that for my 99 Accord.

 
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:24 PM
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Yes, the dealer always works but is usually the most expensive option.
 
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Old 09-12-2018, 07:49 PM
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The remote programming procedure is for a FOB.

The chipped key has to be programmed into the PCM to work when starting the car. A copied key should be able to open the door locks. It just would not be able to start the car.
 
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Ok, on my brother's 2007 Cobalt I bought an inexpensive aftermarket chipped key from Amazon, programed it in the car with the key in the ignition, and it is still working well two years later. Not sure what the procedure is with the Accord key or if it has to go through the dealer.
 
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Old 09-12-2018, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 75Gremlin View Post
To the OP, let us know what you ended up doing to solve the problem.
I will. Interesting links, thanks - with the story of a situation I'm attempting to avoid! Saw the Amazon blank key - the one at the hardware store last night was a TD-30. Spoke to the Honda dealer today - as someone else mentioned here they can make a new key based on the VIN. Mine is quite worn - so I'm glad that option exists. I'm thinking the door locks themselves are hardly worn, 99.9% of the time the FOB was probably used. Speaking of FOBs (good info which I'll save) I was thinking that would be another albeit much more expensive option if my key couldn't be mechanically duplicated. Ace Hardware now has a whole Duracell display with keys, FOBs, and replacement cases with batteries (not sure what the benefit there is - unless the buttons were really worn or for better appearance).

I'm all for backups - multiple data backups of systems I work on, a scanned copy of my driver's license, etc, and of course a spare key(s). Went to the Honda dealership this evening since they were open until 8pm. The guy was by himself and didn't have time to do it. He said to try again Saturday - if they can they'll do it. Otherwise I'll need to make an appointment. Spoke to the receptionist - she said the first Saturday she has is Sept 22 and it may be better to drop of the car... for an extra key? Another case of new (but not really so new) technology making things more complicated, time consuming, and expensive. When I bought my 2002 Silverado last March the dealer gave me a second set of keys and a FOB! I then had the hardware store make a copy (non-chip) for a few bucks. I was told I think $62 + the cost of the key at the dealership. Ace Hardware charges around $80. I've heard Lowes & Home Depot can make chip (transponder) key copies now, I may also check that option. But with the worn key, I may have to go with the dealer.

An inconvenience, but I've heard Hondas are one of the most stolen vehicles. If this system stops it, then it's worth it IMO.
 
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 75Gremlin View Post
Ok, on my brother's 2007 Cobalt I bought an inexpensive aftermarket chipped key from Amazon, programed it in the car with the key in the ignition, and it is still working well two years later. Not sure what the procedure is with the Accord key or if it has to go through the dealer.
The guy who attempted to make my key at Ace Hardware bought something (a FOB I guess) from the Duracell display I mentioned it and programmed it for his late model Dodge. He said there's no key - when you have the FOB with you in the car you just press the start button. The car senses the FOB if it's nearby. My son's 2011 Nissan Maxima has the same system. Your brother didn't have to have the key cut to open the door? Or is it not for that and only for the ignition? Otherwise I'd think the key would have to be cut to open the doors.
 
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