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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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hay i have a 94 honda accord lx 5sp once or twice a month in the morning i drive to work turn off my car an hour or two later i go out to my car to start it and nothing happens it doesnt tirn over the solinoid doesnt click or any thing i will let it sit till i leave work at 7 pm and it will turnover and start with no problme is this my starter or a relay i have the fsm and all it shows is the clutch switch and a fuse in the diagram no relay any help would be great
and i know the clutch switch is good because when it happened i kept the key to start and pushed in and out the clutch and the dash lights would dim and then briten again
 
Old Aug 15, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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There is no relay for the starter. The relay equivalent is the starter solenoid.

When your car doesn't start, see if the small blk/wht wire that is connected to the starter has 12V to body ground when someone has the clutch pushed in and tries to start the car.

You can also try hitting the starter with the handle of a screwdriver on the housing near the two electrical connections, aka caveman test, when someone is holding the key in the start position. Use light/medium force when hitting. If the car starts, then you pretty much verified a starter solenoid problem.
 
Old Aug 15, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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i will try that next time

it sucks that it only happens once a mounth i have had the starter tested a few times and they say its ok but when i remove it it gets banged around any ways my biggest problme is it only happens during the hottest part of the day and when it cools off its fine the only thing i can think of is something expands when hot so i am not getting a good conection
 
Old Aug 15, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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You could disconnect the battery, and clean the two connections with sandpaper at the starter. Then reconnect the stater, then the battery.

You can pop the clutch to get it to start if you are in a pinch, since your car is a manual transmission
 
Old Aug 15, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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yah i bumped started it yesterday the thing that is strange to me is it will start when the outside temp cools down i live in ca and it was 94 yesterday byt 3 weeks ago it was 105 and it started all day when it was that hot
the bat cables are brand new and so is the battery i allaways change them at the same time
 
Old Aug 15, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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You will have to wait until the problem comes up again.

Wiring up a 12V test light on that blk/wht wire to body ground would be easier if you have to work alone. Just use some extra wire so you can see the light when you are in the car.
 
Old Aug 15, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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tahnks for the tip
 
Old Aug 15, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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I don't see you mention anything about any of other electrical items coming on such as the dash lights and such. If nothing comes on I would start with cleaning the battery cables.
 
Old Aug 15, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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the dash lights come on when i turn the key to start the dash lights dim but nothing happens
 
Old Aug 15, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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earler i said the battery and cables are brand new
 
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