Honda Accord 07 SE. 55000 miles. Original Tires wore uneven in the front, inside wore down first. Got new tires put them on the front. Moved the uneven ones to the back. Got an alignment. Seemed ok. One year later, car pulls left. Take it in to get aligned. They say it looks fine but tires in front are AGAIN wearing uneven, inside wearing down more. They throw it on the alignment machine a second time two weeks later and say the back is out of alignment now and needs to be aligned. I have to buy an expensive bar to make it "align-able". Should I just get new tires for the back since they are worn unevenly. #1...Why are my front tires wearing unevenly AGAIN? #2...since my car pulls left a bit, do I really need to get the back aligned or will new tires help? Please help!

Jenz

 

That "expensive bar" to make it align-able... did they identify it any better? A bent control arm or something can cause uneven wear.

Front camber (at least in earlier years) had a kind of wide spec, like +/- one degree. Maybe you can talk the alignment shop into making it closer to zero, and especially to match side-to-side.

 

So the part I believe might be a camber bar. They said Honda did not make their cars so you could change the rear camber. Is there anything else you could think of that would make front tires wear quicker on the inside. I realize the alignment I got was not good...I mean the specs were really different three weeks later when I got it done a second time. The measurements on each front camber and toe and rear camber and toes are quite different from left to right. Should the measurements be similar between the front and left sides? For example the camber on the left front reads .3 and left reads -.01.
Also, I noticed they adjusted the left rear toe and then three weeks later the rear camber measurements were out of alignment. Could it be from their adjustment?

Jen

 

2007 is kinda new for all the suspension parts to be worn & loose. So ????

If something IS worn & loose, then the alignment would keep changing - explaining why it's different next time you try. It's also possible that the shop's machine is sloppy, out of calibration, or something like that.

Alignment angles should match side-to-side. If the guy has the steering wheel just slightly off-center, then TOE might be the exception. But he *should* be careful & make the steering centered when he measures everything.

Not that I remember the allowable specs, but say for example the front camber is +/- 0.5 degree. Your numbers of +.3 on one side & -.01 on the other technically are acceptable. Personally I'd like to see the guy make em match side-to-side but I don't always get my way either.

It's pretty common for camber to be non-adjustable. You get outside the allowable limits that usually means something's bent. (potholes? curbs?)

 

Can i put a rear 2002 camber rod on a 2009 honda accord?

If i put a camber rob on the rear can i adjust the toe?

 

sounds like a ****ty shop.

go to firestone. i bought the lifetime alignment for 169$ unlimited realignment free for the life of your vehicle.

there are adjustable upper control arms, that allow adjustment of the camber. can buy them on ebay. search for 2009 honda accord rear upper control arm. you will get stock replacements and adjustable. i have a Megan Racing UCA and its a solid product. cost about 100$

i would get your car aligned at a reputable shop, and then see how you fair. also if you hit any pot holes or curbs harshly, that will knock your toe or camber out.

can effect your "caster" as well, which is the distance the wheel is from center going forward or backwards, usually a bent radius rod will cause this to be off or worn strut rod bushings.

if you drive roughly, then your upper control arm bushings may be worn out keeping your alignment from staying correct.

have firestone or comparable inspect your suspension arms

good luck

 

no the adjustable camber arms only adjust camber. the toe is adjusted with the toe adjuster bolt on the front lower arm

 

Well, unless the car has been in an accident, or the suspension was modified, Honda OEM suspension components will do just fine. Not sure what the camber bar in doing here...
Having said that, it's back to what Jim said - you either have worn components at the time of the alignment - which the shop should replace anyways before doing the alignment; or the shop misses - so a second opinion won't hurt.
Based on your inside front tire wear I'm thinking toe and camber. I'd get the specs from the dealer, or any source - Internet, etc - then take it to a shop, hand them the specs, and ask them to check for worn components, then align it to the specs. The print-out you will get should confirm. Anything needed they should use OEM replacements.
They should be able to tell you if some angle can't be adjusted to spec, and reason why - bent frame, component, etc. I'd have them do an inspection of the front end first, so you will not end up paying for the alignment that they could not do to spec...

 

I don't understand why everyone says this shop is ripping you off. uneven wear on ANY inside corner whether it be the fronts or the backs means camber is too much and YES you need the camber kit. ingalls is the most recommended however SPC aka Einbach is also good however ingalls gives you 2 arms per corner so you can adjust camber AND toe . SPC is only camber adjustable. anyways people should get their facts straight before accusing the shop of ripping you off. the fact its a really new car means nothing. if its under warranty have your dealership fix it for free.