H22 VS F20B
#12
RE: H22 VS F20B
I know the stock engine can hold 6-8 psi safely
So if i was to resleeve the engine and buy some
rods pistons bearings rings the top bolts i dont remember
the name right now, the cam it will b able to holddown more psi
correct me if im wrong and add some things please n thank u...lol
So if i was to resleeve the engine and buy some
rods pistons bearings rings the top bolts i dont remember
the name right now, the cam it will b able to holddown more psi
correct me if im wrong and add some things please n thank u...lol
#15
RE: H22 VS F20B
ORIGINAL: DA KID RYU
I want to know which engine will do better on a all motor race....
which engine will do better when the compression is down n turbo with 10 psi...
I want to know which engine will do better on a all motor race....
which engine will do better when the compression is down n turbo with 10 psi...
#16
RE: H22 VS F20B
H22 SPECS[*]Compression ratio: 10.0:1 (North America); 10.6–11.0:1 (Japan)[*]Max power: 190PS (187hp/140kW)/187hp (CD6 Accord); 200 PS (BB1/4/6 Prelude SiR's); 220 PS (Euro-R & Prelude Type-S);A7 220 bhp DIN (Type-R)(142–164 kW)[*]Max torque: 156–167 ft·lbf (207–217 Nm)
F2B SPECS[*]Compression ratio: 11.0:1[*]Max power: 180PS (auto)-200PS (manual) (134-149 kW) @ 7000 rpm[*]Max torque: 141-144 ft·lbf (189 N m) @ 5500 rpm
15-20 torque just down shift...
i read dis and tought it was hella good info
some people dont look at the whole picture ....
yes the h22 has more tourge ....but its only like 15 ftp and the f20 comes in 1000rpm later ...thats not a big deal ...not to mention the f20b has shorter gears to make up for the diff in trq......
for those on a budget (ie me)am taking the the f20 over the h22 (i have a jdm h22 in the car now) and heres why
the stock bottom end on the f20b is as strong as most after market parts..if not better due to hondas close tolerances ....in my case i will never have to upgrade the bottom end for my all motor build......even if i was going to there wouldnt be much use due to the fact that the rods are super strong ...
another plus is that the f20 uses larger mains 55mm vs 50mm(97 and up h22 use these mains too) a fully balanced bottom end and not to mention iron sleevs.....and no real need to resleve for forged pistons..
tranny has lsd on all 5 speeds and not to mention that the f20 is more then like ly in better condition due to the age ..(they were only made from late 97 to 99)
on the bad side if the worst hapened it would be dam hard to get stock internals or valves since they are smaller then the h22 ....but found there is a lot of other honda parts that will fit this engine nicely
i found many f20b for around 3000 and h22 for any where from 2000 to 2500
so for the small amount in difference and the fact the motor is newr in age its not a bad trade off
dont get me wrong it took me a long time to make the decision to go with the f20 but after installing my DIY ITBS on the h22 the rev potential of the motor was really a nucance ...so i would have to build my h to work with the new power band and that would cost more then i have .....
it bugs me when evey one calls it a torqueless wonde like b16s and such whn they really have no proof of it ..ive seen some dynos of f20bs put out 214whp with a ported head jun3 cams and an image header and almost 9000rpm with a broad power band ...never seen a stock block h22 make that power before ..in fact its hard to find many over 200 whp with more mods .....
that motor was build for one purpose..mugen needed a 2.0 motor for a race class and the of course were over with the h22...i thkn there was a stock block rule and thats why it was build so dam good....and these motors were making 300whp
it was also the test bed for the f20c (s2000)
and we all know its a great motor
so do some reasearch before making your decision ....if you think the motor will suit your driving habbits then great ..if its down low toruge you want mabye a stroked h22 is what your after ...me i want to make as much power as a can on a modest budget and with the itbs the f20b with a smaller head gasket some good cams and prospeed header should be great get me to my goal of 13.5 with my accord ........hope there was some good info in here for you
F2B SPECS[*]Compression ratio: 11.0:1[*]Max power: 180PS (auto)-200PS (manual) (134-149 kW) @ 7000 rpm[*]Max torque: 141-144 ft·lbf (189 N m) @ 5500 rpm
15-20 torque just down shift...
i read dis and tought it was hella good info
some people dont look at the whole picture ....
yes the h22 has more tourge ....but its only like 15 ftp and the f20 comes in 1000rpm later ...thats not a big deal ...not to mention the f20b has shorter gears to make up for the diff in trq......
for those on a budget (ie me)am taking the the f20 over the h22 (i have a jdm h22 in the car now) and heres why
the stock bottom end on the f20b is as strong as most after market parts..if not better due to hondas close tolerances ....in my case i will never have to upgrade the bottom end for my all motor build......even if i was going to there wouldnt be much use due to the fact that the rods are super strong ...
another plus is that the f20 uses larger mains 55mm vs 50mm(97 and up h22 use these mains too) a fully balanced bottom end and not to mention iron sleevs.....and no real need to resleve for forged pistons..
tranny has lsd on all 5 speeds and not to mention that the f20 is more then like ly in better condition due to the age ..(they were only made from late 97 to 99)
on the bad side if the worst hapened it would be dam hard to get stock internals or valves since they are smaller then the h22 ....but found there is a lot of other honda parts that will fit this engine nicely
i found many f20b for around 3000 and h22 for any where from 2000 to 2500
so for the small amount in difference and the fact the motor is newr in age its not a bad trade off
dont get me wrong it took me a long time to make the decision to go with the f20 but after installing my DIY ITBS on the h22 the rev potential of the motor was really a nucance ...so i would have to build my h to work with the new power band and that would cost more then i have .....
it bugs me when evey one calls it a torqueless wonde like b16s and such whn they really have no proof of it ..ive seen some dynos of f20bs put out 214whp with a ported head jun3 cams and an image header and almost 9000rpm with a broad power band ...never seen a stock block h22 make that power before ..in fact its hard to find many over 200 whp with more mods .....
that motor was build for one purpose..mugen needed a 2.0 motor for a race class and the of course were over with the h22...i thkn there was a stock block rule and thats why it was build so dam good....and these motors were making 300whp
it was also the test bed for the f20c (s2000)
and we all know its a great motor
so do some reasearch before making your decision ....if you think the motor will suit your driving habbits then great ..if its down low toruge you want mabye a stroked h22 is what your after ...me i want to make as much power as a can on a modest budget and with the itbs the f20b with a smaller head gasket some good cams and prospeed header should be great get me to my goal of 13.5 with my accord ........hope there was some good info in here for you
#20
RE: H22 VS F20B
ORIGINAL: marbro
or take an f23 block, but a h22 head on it, add 11:1 pistons and throw on a transmission with lower gear ratios and tune it and it would probably cost you less then 3000 after the tuning
or take an f23 block, but a h22 head on it, add 11:1 pistons and throw on a transmission with lower gear ratios and tune it and it would probably cost you less then 3000 after the tuning