tiptronic, autostick, paddle shift, slapstick,

 

I didn't say anything opposing that, all i was saying is that with an automatic, it'll shift fastest if you just pop it into drive rather than trying to control it no matter what system you have. But the tip-tronic whatever is quicker than going from 1 to 2 to d3 to d4 because they are different types of systems

 

depending on the system it should be the same between all those. When i get bored and do 1 through d4 each click it shifts at the rpm point that im at. The only time it doesnt is if i have the foot to the floor and shift 4.5k rpms from second to third then the computer realizes its at WOT then shifts back to second. Either way, auto's have improve greatly over the years

 

Sorry, should have been more specific in the fact that i'm talking about full throttle acceleration... 03 Sleeper was talking about timing his automatic to a manual... i was just saying that shifting yourself in a race will slow you down in an automatic

 

a couple of things i can throw in here,,
# 1 .. it is ok to upshift or down shift an auto tranny manually , it is no big deal ..the only thing is, especially when downshifting to make sure you do it at the correct speed ,, if you are going at 70 you surely would not want to downshift to second or first gear .. REDLINE possible engine damage .. but especially if you are going in a steep downhill or uphill , you can down**** the tranny and leave it on the gear so tranny does not go back and forth up and downshifting ,, and on a steep downhill, you would not have to use the brakes so much if you shift it into lower gears

# 2 ,,DO NOT for any reason sfift the auto tranny to PARK while driving.even at 10 mph . there is a parking pin which engages in the parking gear ( so car does not roll when in park ) that can, and i have seen shatter when tranny is put into park while driving .. and yes you do have to remove the tranny and basically overhaul it,, you cannot leave any metal inside a Honda auto tranny , it will seize up the valves in the valve body faster than you can say BOO .fluid will carry and metal filing all over the inside of that tranny ...Putting in neutral will not do any damage except depending on the speed you are going rpm would shoot way up ( redline ) unless you take your foot off the accell .
But again as for shifting under normal driving condition ,, it is perfectly safe

 

ah, so the parking pin is inside the trany, I thought it was something outside that locked

 

Thank you for clearing that all up Desert! We can always rely on you to settle an argument!

 

I learned a lot from this thread. w00t!

 

the worst thing you can do its to shift it with auto i mean you can do it a couple of times like i do but it aint good thats why auto trans car are for old people(not designed for teenagers)

 

1. Manuals cost significantly less than automatics (often over $1,000 less).
2. Manuals are more fun to drive once you know what you're doing.
3. Manuals usually get better fuel economy, particularly in the city.
4. Manuals permit faster acceleration because you have more control over when the transmission shifts.
5. Manuals are simpler and thus more reliable, and also less expensive to repair when they do fail.
6. Manuals weigh significantly less than automatics.
7. Manuals give you more control over torque and traction (e.g. starting in second gear during slippery weather).
8. Most car thieves can't drive manual transmissions, so it is less likely that your car will be stolen.

Technology that thinks for you is great - as long as it does exactly what you want it to do when you want to do it. I've yet to find an automatic transmission that performs precisely as I want it to perform, so I buy manual-equipped cars instead. I pocket the savings, get more enjoyment and get better performance.

Jim