01 Accord HORRIBLE MPG/ROUGH START! PLEASE HELP!
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01 Accord HORRIBLE MPG/ROUGH START! PLEASE HELP!
Hello, I have a 2001 Honda Accord LX, 2.3L V-tec. All stock, no aftermarket parts.
136,XXX miles. Bought the car at 104,000 miles.
I've done all the maintenance that's required.
Transmission was rebuilt at 134,500 miles. (By Shop with 2 year warranty/24,000 Miles)
Thermostat replaced at 110,000 miles.
Timing belt was changed at 88,000 miles. (According to previous owner of car)
Cap/rotor, air filter, spark plugs, cabin air filter, oil change, radiator flush at 136,000 miles.
I noticed the HORRIBLE gas mileage about 130,000 miles.
I usually get 360-380 miles per tank. Now i'm only pulling off 280 miles per tank!
Just the past 500 miles my car been having trouble starting. It takes a 2 times to start it up. This happen when its cold start.
It don't have trouble starting if I just recently turn off the car. Such as to go in the gas station/store. The start up is rough sometimes too!
There is NO check engine light on. The car runs smooth once its warmed up.
It does idle at like 900-1000 RPM at cold start.
Can anyone please help me figure out the problem to the gas mileage/start problem.
I don't want to take it to the dealership because they are asking $118 an hour, it takes 2-3 hrs just to "try" to find the problem. PLEASE HELP!
136,XXX miles. Bought the car at 104,000 miles.
I've done all the maintenance that's required.
Transmission was rebuilt at 134,500 miles. (By Shop with 2 year warranty/24,000 Miles)
Thermostat replaced at 110,000 miles.
Timing belt was changed at 88,000 miles. (According to previous owner of car)
Cap/rotor, air filter, spark plugs, cabin air filter, oil change, radiator flush at 136,000 miles.
I noticed the HORRIBLE gas mileage about 130,000 miles.
I usually get 360-380 miles per tank. Now i'm only pulling off 280 miles per tank!
Just the past 500 miles my car been having trouble starting. It takes a 2 times to start it up. This happen when its cold start.
It don't have trouble starting if I just recently turn off the car. Such as to go in the gas station/store. The start up is rough sometimes too!
There is NO check engine light on. The car runs smooth once its warmed up.
It does idle at like 900-1000 RPM at cold start.
Can anyone please help me figure out the problem to the gas mileage/start problem.
I don't want to take it to the dealership because they are asking $118 an hour, it takes 2-3 hrs just to "try" to find the problem. PLEASE HELP!
#2
The one potential problem area seen on many cars (as in all makes and models) which doesn't generate a Check Engine Light (CEL), and yet affects fuel economy is the upstream O2 sensor. As a general rule I abhor "throwing parts at a problem" until it is properly diagnosed, however, in a situation like this, I'd be inclined to buy either a Denso or NGK O2 sensor and give it a try.
#3
The one potential problem area seen on many cars (as in all makes and models) which doesn't generate a Check Engine Light (CEL), and yet affects fuel economy is the upstream O2 sensor. As a general rule I abhor "throwing parts at a problem" until it is properly diagnosed, however, in a situation like this, I'd be inclined to buy either a Denso or NGK O2 sensor and give it a try.
Can an o2 sensor cause over 80-100 miles per tank lost??
#4
A very common problem; when the O2 sensor is misreading the gasses in the exhaust, the air to fuel ratio can be set to full rich.
#5
Not that it is needed but I second what/where Shipo is going.
The only thing I would add is that a good cleaning of the throttle body never hurts anything. Cost = a can or two of cleaner, a few rags and a bit of your time. Be sure to get both sides of the butterfly (an old toothbrush is nice ). Also there is a "port" inside the TB towards the firewall side - be sure to get plenty of cleaner into that port....it leads to the IAC.
The only thing I would add is that a good cleaning of the throttle body never hurts anything. Cost = a can or two of cleaner, a few rags and a bit of your time. Be sure to get both sides of the butterfly (an old toothbrush is nice ). Also there is a "port" inside the TB towards the firewall side - be sure to get plenty of cleaner into that port....it leads to the IAC.
#6
Not that it is needed but I second what/where Shipo is going.
The only thing I would add is that a good cleaning of the throttle body never hurts anything. Cost = a can or two of cleaner, a few rags and a bit of your time. Be sure to get both sides of the butterfly (an old toothbrush is nice ). Also there is a "port" inside the TB towards the firewall side - be sure to get plenty of cleaner into that port....it leads to the IAC.
The only thing I would add is that a good cleaning of the throttle body never hurts anything. Cost = a can or two of cleaner, a few rags and a bit of your time. Be sure to get both sides of the butterfly (an old toothbrush is nice ). Also there is a "port" inside the TB towards the firewall side - be sure to get plenty of cleaner into that port....it leads to the IAC.
Ill give it a try! Thanks. If any other suggestions please do post.
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