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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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Default Help Please - 2005 EX 4Cyl Starting is taking longer to start

Gentlemen, a little help.

I have a 2005 Accord 4 cylinder EX. Over the last 3-4 months it has taken to taking longer to crank then before. It almost sounds like a weak battery, before it was num num num vroom, now it is num..num..num..vroom. Same number of turn overs just slower.

I have replaced the battery and upgraded to the 35 series unit from a V6.

I have tried turning the key and waiting for a few seconds to let the fuel system charge.

It seems that the first start after a long pause is the worst, overnight etc.

It seems to improve after that but i can not find any voltage drains?

What do you guys think? Searches seem to indicate the starter might be weak? Or perhaps the fuel pump? I am not effected by the recall (by VIN apparently i have the denso).

Also it never fails to start or engage this all about the speed that the starter is turning.

Finally if it is the starter it appears i need to remove the intake manifold and just unbolt it? Other then the FelPro Gasket Set Part Number: MS96473 and the starter is there anything else i should be aware of?

Thanks in advance.
 
Old Mar 8, 2013 | 02:08 PM
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auto or stick?
 
Old Mar 8, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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Auto, sorry should have mentioned that.
 
Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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yeah, you need a starter. should be the Mitsuba type for automatic trans. check rock auto out, lots of options...i'd put a link in, but evidently it's against the law as far as the intake gasket, if you are careful you could reuse the original one. it should be metal.
 
Old Mar 8, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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First I would rule out loose/dirty/corroded battery cable connections - both ends of cables.

Then check the cables themselves. I've seen corrosion where the cable itself is crimped into the end-lug.

The fuel pump will not make the starter crank slower. That's all about getting enough electrical power to the starter, and/or the starter motor getting weak.
 
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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Well it was the starter. And I did have to replace the intake manifold gasket. So thanks guys.

I assume that the resistance in the electric motor in the starter was just making it harder and harder to spin the car up.

I used a Autozone Duralast Gold Refurbished lifetime warranty and it was around $130 with 10 dollar core charge.

It took about an hour / hour and a half.

It is night and day different between the two.

Also my car has 250K on it and I just replaced the original starter.
 
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 09:13 AM
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it's usually the brushes that wear out and don't make good enough contact.
 
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