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Hit curb, +ve camber Q

Old Feb 17, 2007 | 03:24 AM
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I bought a 97 Accord lxi recently and the previous owner had hit a curb but I have no idea what sort of impact or orientation it was. It was enough to knock the radiator fins loose, some ended up wrapped around the AC condenser fan. That's all been repaired, but the car was pulling to the left so I had a wheel alignment done and found there was 0.36 degrees of positive camber on the front left wheel (right hand drive over here), the wheel has also been knocked back slightly in the wheel bay. I'm not sure which figure corresponds to that but for the front the printout says:

Half-toe +1.5mm LH, -0.7mm RH
Caster Max Dif +2.23 degrees LH, +2.72 degrees RH
King Pin Angle +5.72 degrees LH, +6.17 degrees RH

I'm told it's only very slightly out and it's not enough to wear the tires unevenly, basically just an annoyance since the car pulls to the left. I'm hoping that someone with a bit of experience can suggest the most likely culprits that are bent since nothing can be detected visually.

Also I was thinking that adding a camber adjustment kit might solve the car pulling problem. Would that be a suggested way to repair it or do I have to locate the bent parts and replace them?
 
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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I used to perform alignments for a living. Camber has to do with the top of the tire being tilted either in twords the car or out away from the car. Generally you want a slightly positive camber(leaning away).
After looking at your alignment results .(They actually look fine).Somethingmay beslightly bent or worn . While the readings wont wearout tires prematurely (at least they were honest) The pull you are experiencing can be caused by radial tire pull.

I recently bought 2 cheap tires from wal-mart and put them on my front end. The car pulled hard to the right. It didn't before. The tire installer drove my car and told me I needed an alignment. I thanked Him and took the car home and promptly switched the tires from side to side. I put the left on the right and vise versa. Now the car tracks down the road just fine.

In answer to your question about camber, I would say no. Camber usually wont cause a car to pull unless its way off. Take a 2 foot level and put it vertically against your tires. You should see that the tires are slightly leaning out away from the car. Check it against the other side. They should be very close to the same. If not that may very well be your problem.
 
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 02:46 AM
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The camber on the other 3 wheels is all negative, -0.14RH Front, -0.36LH Rear, -0.61RH Rear. So the +0.36 on the front left means it's been bumped around half a degree. I haven't been able to detect it with the eye, a third of a degree is so little and it's hard to find flat ground around here. Our roads over here are curved to let water run off, and driving on the left side of the road means the camber on the front left matches the road, it definately pulls much harder when the road is more curved. It's probably more to do with the front left wheel sitting further back in the bay instead of the camber? Are you able to point out what figures show the entire front left wheel has moved back?

I haven't tried rotating the wheels, I just checked the pressures and verified that they were the same. It's worth a shot at this stage before I start buying replacement parts, there has definately been a curb collision as told by the radiator though
 
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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it sure sounds to me like there is a bent component ..On those hit the curb collisions i have seen a lot of lower control arms bent, frt + rear beams ,, But on EVERY single one of them i have never heard or seen knock the radiator fins loose .......maybe it was more of an impact that the previous owner told you..
 
Old Feb 21, 2007 | 02:32 AM
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Everyone that I spoke to about the radiator asked if it was a curb collision so I guess it's fairly common for radiators to take damage from curbs, probably on larger impacts like you said though. However I did notice the fins were copper and they weren't soldered onto anything, they were really just wedged between the tubes. Usually the fins are aluminium and it's all soldered together, not too sure what was going on with that old radiator.

At this stage I'm thinking the camber is due to a bent lower control arm and the wheel sitting slightly further back is a bent tie rod. I'm hoping it's nothing more anyway, really just looking for advice on what parts to buy and get replaced given the symptoms and alignment readout.
 
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