IF the forumadmin is suggesting that you adjust the way you go about posting i believe that would mean that i did not over react and that perhaps you should read the post a little better, not myself. Anyways, i am going to drop this issue now, i have said what i have to say. Thanks again for any help anyone has to offer. Oh , and by the way, you really cannot do headers on a 7th gen v6 as the primaries are WELDED to the heads. O3sleeper, by the way, thanks for the AEM install guide, actually was helpful.