I'll try it out eventually lol, if I can get a summer job lined up... About the Sti's and hood scoops, Everybody is always worried about hydrolocking their engines. I am no expert, but I am pretty sure that to hydrolock and engine, your intake has to suck up quite a bit of water. Think about sucking up a drink with a straw, and that's probably about the right idea. If that is the case, that would mean that your intake would have to be at least partially submerged in water. The cai is risky, because in the winter, a puddle as shallow as like 5" ish can partially submerge a filter on a lowered car with a cai. The truth of the matter though is that water can enter you engine with no adverse effects. I started a thread a couple days ago about water injection. This is basically adding water to your intake air to cool it down. But, it doesn't hydrolock your engine. Anyway, the point I was getting at was with a big hood scoop you can suck up some rain and maybe even snow at times, but that isn't nearly enough water to hydrolock your engine. I don't think anyway lol. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that people are often overly worried about hydrolocking their engines.

 

hey breeze, those velocity fan or funnels you mentioned,you thinkthose tornado type insert for your intake that they advertised before on tv would work? i'm not really sure how much those things are but it may work. what if you put one on each end or just one to boost the air into the filter,would that be feasible? what do you think sir nasty? or anyone??

 

Hey Trukid, I drew you a sketch of what I was thinking about doing with those velocity funnels, and I drew a pretty crappy drawing of what the funnels themselves look like. Regarding the tornado things, I've heard at least that they don't really help cars like Accords. The Tornado intake "enhancers" basically try to get the air to swirl into the intake manifold, but the problem here is that our intake manifolds are already designed to form the air into a swirl. If the intake manifold itself is already going to swirl your air, there isn't really much point in swirling it before it gets into the manifold lol. The same theory applies to throttle body spacers. These devices should work better on carburated engines I'd think though. Anyway, these funnels are supposed to be like perfect or near perfect parabolas, and they are designed to accelerate the air as it passes through them. My idea is that they already start out large in diameter (5-6") and narrow down to about 1.5-2" diameter at the center hole. I was thinking about mounting two of them in the air dam of my Accord, and running 1.5-2" piping from them back up into my engine bay. I was going to use that like "build your own intake" pipe that you can buy at like shucks, because I don't have a pipe bender... then, where the pipes would join, I thought that I would narrow the pipe down to about the size of steel brake line, the non-mesh stuff. This kind of pipe can be like hand bent pretty easily, and I was going to run this pipe into a bunghole in my intake. It's similar to how intakes have an outlet for you to run a hose into the top of the valve cover for VTEC applications, except this will be an inlet not an outlet hopefully lol. I think that by narrowing the airflow passage down it should generate mild pressure, hopefully like 1-1.5 psi... But even if my engine isn't getting "boost", there will still be more airflow to the engine. I haven't thought of where to put a filter.... so that's a problem lol, but whatever... Anyway, here are those diagrams I drew up, I'm not an artist, or an architect, so bear with me lol. Let me know what you think of this idea, but like I said a couple posts ago, I don't have a job right now, so I'll have to wait to try this project out lol.


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it sounds good in theory! As for the turbonators and throttle body spacers etc. those things are crap. They even rob some power and fuel economy in certain tests.... The ram air idea whether it be parabolic or straight through is good in theory so even if it doesn't do a thing it's not going to hurt you either.... and it's cheap

 

Breeze,
nicesketch[sm=hail.gif]!that looks pretty good. one question though, the hose that goes into your intake tube would be a straight shot to your throttle body. would that bring in some dirt or stuff that would not be good for the engine? just wondering.. my idea was to run one of those flexiblehosesor tubing from the grill opening with a "enchancers" on the mouth of the tubing(if i could fit it in there) and then the other end is the same as the front but it will direct the air right in n front or upward the front of theair filter,(actually it would be angle up just below theface of the filter. would that be good too?

 

agreed it is cheap by design. but as you said earlier 4-5 hp gain is good enough. hopefullywecould pull this off. those type of gains is worth it especially it would be light for our pockets.Thanks sir_ nasty.

 

Yeah Truekid, it would probably help. Like I said, I need to put a filter in my design somewhere lol, I was just thinking that unless you built some sort of a box around your preexisting filter, getting more air near it isn't really going to help that much. I think that the air is going to disperse wherever you direct it to, that's why I was going to try to port it directly into the intake because I figure then at least I know all that air is getting into my intake manifold lol. But yeah I dunno where I'm going to puy a filter in... I'll have to go look into what shapes of filters exist, and put a little more thought into that aspect of things lol.

 

Btw Truekid, you and I have almost the exact same performance setup of our cars, minus me having nice springs lol.

 

look for one of the filters that has an inverted cone in the end of it.... or use a coffee can, put the filter inside it and then it will all be forced in