(No OBDII codes) 2008 Accord V6 won’t accelerate past 4000RPM
Hey guys! Picked up a 2008 accord V6 auto sedan with 245,000 miles a few months ago, and it has been an absolute headache with this one issue I’ve been stuck on. When driving it, it won’t accelerate past about 3500-4000 RPM. In neutral at a standstill it’ll rev freely, but when driving and flooring the throttle in any gear, it’ll get to around 3500-4000RPM and stay there until I let off the throttle and then it shifts (pretty roughly) into the next gear. At first I thought maybe a limp mode, but there are no codes at all. When I bought it, the trans fluid was extremely low (dipstick was DRY), but I filled it and it still did the same. Took it to a mechanic friend who hooked up a snap on scan tool to monitor activity while driving, and he didn’t see anything out of the norm. He thought the trans was just burnt up from being run without fluid and that it needed a new trans.
replaced the trans with a lower-mile junkyard trans (but reused most of the old sensors aside from the shift solenoids and a few other bits) and of course it’s still doing the same thing. For background, I started off thinking it was an engine issue so I made sure the VTEC solenoid screens were cleared, replaced gaskets on VTEC solenoids, changed oil, checked spark plugs and coil packs. I’m thinking it could be one of those sensors is bad, like maybe the fluid pressure sensor or the clutch pressure control switch, but I’m just sick of throwing parts and effort at it, and everyone I’ve talked to is stumped on it. Does anyone have any idea??
replaced the trans with a lower-mile junkyard trans (but reused most of the old sensors aside from the shift solenoids and a few other bits) and of course it’s still doing the same thing. For background, I started off thinking it was an engine issue so I made sure the VTEC solenoid screens were cleared, replaced gaskets on VTEC solenoids, changed oil, checked spark plugs and coil packs. I’m thinking it could be one of those sensors is bad, like maybe the fluid pressure sensor or the clutch pressure control switch, but I’m just sick of throwing parts and effort at it, and everyone I’ve talked to is stumped on it. Does anyone have any idea??
Last edited by jake_zx2; Feb 8, 2024 at 09:46 PM.
Without codes in this case, I'm not sure what is the root cause. I'd start with some basics to see how the engine and transmssion are working to start narrowing down potential causes. If you still have access to the snap on scanner, I think you can scan all the modules where there is a tree of all the modules. Let us know if any are off-line.
I'd also use the scanner to monitor short and long term fuel trims on bank 1 and bank 2 at idle and at high rpm (4 data points x 2 rpms would be 8 values). Also montior to ensure you are in closed loop when doing the test. Fuel trims will jump around a bit, so an approximate value will work, say your bank1 sensor 1 short term is 10-13, just report an approximate averat of 12. This will give you an idea of how the engine computer is managing fuel ratio.
I'd drive the car with the scanner and see if the snap-on can tell you what gear the transmission is in. I'm pretty sure this has 6 gears. When you get to 4000 rpm, see what gear the PCM thinks you are in. When the hard shift happens, see if the PCM went up a gear. You'll need an assistant to monitor the scanne or drive while you monitor the scanner.
I'd also use the scanner to monitor short and long term fuel trims on bank 1 and bank 2 at idle and at high rpm (4 data points x 2 rpms would be 8 values). Also montior to ensure you are in closed loop when doing the test. Fuel trims will jump around a bit, so an approximate value will work, say your bank1 sensor 1 short term is 10-13, just report an approximate averat of 12. This will give you an idea of how the engine computer is managing fuel ratio.
I'd drive the car with the scanner and see if the snap-on can tell you what gear the transmission is in. I'm pretty sure this has 6 gears. When you get to 4000 rpm, see what gear the PCM thinks you are in. When the hard shift happens, see if the PCM went up a gear. You'll need an assistant to monitor the scanne or drive while you monitor the scanner.
Without codes in this case, I'm not sure what is the root cause. I'd start with some basics to see how the engine and transmssion are working to start narrowing down potential causes. If you still have access to the snap on scanner, I think you can scan all the modules where there is a tree of all the modules. Let us know if any are off-line.
I'd also use the scanner to monitor short and long term fuel trims on bank 1 and bank 2 at idle and at high rpm (4 data points x 2 rpms would be 8 values). Also montior to ensure you are in closed loop when doing the test. Fuel trims will jump around a bit, so an approximate value will work, say your bank1 sensor 1 short term is 10-13, just report an approximate averat of 12. This will give you an idea of how the engine computer is managing fuel ratio.
I'd drive the car with the scanner and see if the snap-on can tell you what gear the transmission is in. I'm pretty sure this has 6 gears. When you get to 4000 rpm, see what gear the PCM thinks you are in. When the hard shift happens, see if the PCM went up a gear. You'll need an assistant to monitor the scanne or drive while you monitor the scanner.
I'd also use the scanner to monitor short and long term fuel trims on bank 1 and bank 2 at idle and at high rpm (4 data points x 2 rpms would be 8 values). Also montior to ensure you are in closed loop when doing the test. Fuel trims will jump around a bit, so an approximate value will work, say your bank1 sensor 1 short term is 10-13, just report an approximate averat of 12. This will give you an idea of how the engine computer is managing fuel ratio.
I'd drive the car with the scanner and see if the snap-on can tell you what gear the transmission is in. I'm pretty sure this has 6 gears. When you get to 4000 rpm, see what gear the PCM thinks you are in. When the hard shift happens, see if the PCM went up a gear. You'll need an assistant to monitor the scanne or drive while you monitor the scanner.
I’ll check fuel trims when I have access to the scanner again, I appreciate the insight!
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