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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 09:56 PM
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Default 97'Accord creaking noise under light braking

2.2l, auto,
Under light brake application, this noise occurs and appears to come from the transmission area, more specific, the diff area. I have jacked up the d/side of the vehicle and with the car blocked, had the tire rotate at idle speed. At this time, applied light brake pressure to create this noise. With another person behind the wheel, i stood beside the tire area and again heard this noise, which appears to come from the transmission/diff area. We switched out the jack and stands to the p/side of the car and did the same procedure. Again this noise appears to come from the transmission/diff area. [one tire in the air at a time to rule out pad/caliper/wheel bearing noise] Now, under normal driving and regular braking, this noise is there. Under a medium to heavy braking, nothing, noise is gone. Car has less than 130,000kms
I posted a video on youtube, under 1997 Honda Accord brake noise, it is a 20 second video, and you can clearly hear this noise. My channel is: Stumpr1
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New pads/rotors/wheel bearings and the d/side cv shaft. [boot torn] Any help would be great
 
Old Sep 4, 2014 | 10:32 AM
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updated info: Sept. 4/14.
With the car rolling, on the ground, in drive and engine idling, no noises are heard. Once a light brake application is applied, this creaking noise can be heard in and around the car. I also watched one other video on youtube of the same noise concern, but they did not post any repair info. I will post more information as I try different things.
 
Old Sep 4, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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Update: I replaced the left CV axle because of a torn boot. [approx 4 months ago] I used an aftermarket brand and I noted a leaking seal right after. I changed out the seal with a brand name seal and still had a leak. After removing the cv shaft again, I noted the shaft size were the seal rides on, was slightly smaller than the seals themselves. [should be a tight fit] I looked at both the original axle and the aftermarket one, tried the seal on both axles, the aftermarket one was a loose fit when compared to the factory shaft, could this cause a noise, where the splines go into the diff area? Maybe riding at a slightly different angle inside the diff?
 
Old Sep 6, 2014 | 06:53 AM
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Just me but it sounds like the brake is dragging?

I know you did this on both sides to "rule out" brakes but if they are both dragging then you can't really rule them out. Pop the pads out, spin the tire by hand - it the noise there? Be sure not to press the brake pedal while the pads are out or your have a mess on you hands
 
Old Sep 6, 2014 | 07:20 AM
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Aftermarket CV axles are notorious for infant failures and errors in parts. I would ask supplier for a replacement axle. Loose fit will likely damage seal which should be replaced w/ axle.

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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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UPDATE: right front hub assembly is warped. that's the short story. Also the driver side has some movement to it. I am going to replace both hub and bearing assemblies.
This most likely happened when the bearings were replaced a few months ago, I remember the one mechanic noted that he had to heat the hub red hot in order for the bearing to move. Ya, that will due it. After pressing the new bearings back on, not sure if the hub had cooled down or whether the bearing was pressed back onto a warm hub. Either way, here we are. It is amazing how noise travels thru the halfshafts, we hoisted the car, had one person apply light brake pressure and we used a stethoscope from the right side to the left. By stopping the right wheel from turning, the noise almost doubled to the left side. Stopping the left side produced the same noise transfer. Removing the wheels and inspecting the hubs while they were spinning,really showed us how warped these hubs are, we use the old jack stand/screw driver trick and noted the p/side hub was way out. You could see the hub/rotor/caliper "sliding around" but the noise is not from the caliper itself, nor the pins. Interesting too say the least. Noise appears to come from the bearing/hub area.
Now, can you buy a complete hub and bearing assembly? I see lots of bearings for sale and lots of hubs, but not a complete kit. Are they available? let me know. Thanks for everyone's help.
 
Old Sep 12, 2014 | 07:55 AM
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Yea, I once swore I had a noise in the front of one of mine.....turned out to be from the rear

A "kit" for these is not available - hub and bearing. Now if you want to change it from a hub over rotor there is a kit from TAS that will convert it to a rotor over hub. Makes changing the rotors so much easier . Last I looked I think the kit was ~$300?
 
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